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More the 97% of Portland Timbers Season Tickets Holders Renewed for 2012

Hope you aren't on the waiting list as the Portland Timbers announced today that more than 97% of the current 12,500 season ticket holders have renewed for 2012 and that's only within the first month and a half of when the renewals were even available to be purchased! My guess that damn near 100% will be renewed before the end of the year.

To add to the good (business) news of the Timbers, the club front office also announced that that the season ticket waiting list is over 5,000. Which means that if you're not on it now it could be years before you can ensure that you have a seat available to you.

The big questions heading into the off season is whether or not the 20, 323 attendance configuration will go into affect for the full season next year. While nothing has been confirmed, there were rumors that if it does we could see the season ticket holder base increase to 13,500.

Regardless, I'll be looking forward to another sold out season next year.

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Merritt confirmed on Twitter that they WILL raise the # of season tix next year

Question is by how much.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 18, 2011 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Can't imagine they'll go up a lot

STHs get a huge per game discount (~50% i think) over the single game cost for the same seat. They’ll definitely have to strike a balance. I think the most interesting number will be next years renewal rate, after the sheen is gone (unless we’re simply awesome).

by ledjom on Oct 18, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

The real question is

how many of those are scalpers?

In all seriousness, it is absolute insanity how much STHs save. I’ve probably spent the equivalent of two season tickets buying tickets through the secondhand sites and at the front office, not to mention the six hours in line I spent the day the single game tickets went on sale. I know my two STH holder friends paid on average $21-25 a ticket for TA and I spent 50-60 for the same seats, and I still went to around half of the home games and a couple friendlies as well. Still worth every penny, though. Here’s hoping I can get tickets!

Also, if the STH waiting list is too daunting, it’s still worth getting on there. From what I was told by the Timbers rep, those on the STH waiting list get first dibs on the half-season and mini-game packs and all that.

by vitaminx on Oct 18, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

It's only a savings off the secondary market

My season ticket costs me 20x the single game ticket price, for a savings of $0 off the regular price. Granted, there are almost no tickets available from the box office, but it’s less about me getting a discount than it is about others having to pay way over face value.

by pdb on Oct 18, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's true

For instance, when single game tickets were made available to STHs prior to the general public I bought a pair of tickets (through the Timbers not the secondary market) to the Sounders game for my brother and newphew at a cost $45/ticket. Those same tickets are sold to STHs for $27 this year.

by ledjom on Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in 111, and my tickets are $440 each

which works out to $22/game, which is the listed price on the website. I don’t know if the Timbers do different prices for marquee matchup games, though, so that could change things a bit.

by pdb on Oct 18, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep -

That is the price for season tickets, they simply break it out on a per game basis for you. Those are not the prices for single game tickets. I’m sure the Sounders’ game sold for a premium, but you get a significant discount as a STH compared to single game tickets. It held true for other games, I just couldn’t remember the specifics of those (price/section/etc) right off the top of my head.

by ledjom on Oct 18, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think...

That you are paying the “Tier 2” price for each ticket, so you save money there and also forgo any additional ticket charges.

For TA tickets Tier 2 is $20 (x7 games= $140), Tier 1 is $22 (x7 games= $154), and Premium is $25 (x3 games= $75) for a total of $371, which is just about the price of season tickets before we even factor in the three friendlies.

Plus, convenience.

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by William Conwell on Oct 18, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Math is not my strong suit.

A total of $369, not $371.

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by William Conwell on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know why I'm spending so much time on this

I think its because I want to believe I got a great value! OK, last year I paid $15 per ticket for North End Terrace (210). This link:

http://www.portlandtimbers.com/sites/portlandtimbers.com/files/single%20game%20map%20final_0.pdf

Has single game pricing. So, I paid $300 for the season and if I went to every game based on single game ticket prices I would ahve paid $429 if we count friendlies as Tier 1 games. So about a 30% discount last year without service charges.

Not bad!

by ledjom on Oct 18, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

fail

Friendlies as Tier 2

by ledjom on Oct 18, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

"My guess that damn near 100% will be renewed before the end of the year."

I’m sure that would be the case, but I think that as of last Friday the option for renewing your season tickets is closed. I know that Friday was some kind of a critical deadline for that, but I guess I might have been misunderstanding.

In either case, I think that the next batch of season tickets to be sold will be to existing STHs who want to add additional seats. I think there’s a period of time for that, and only after that time period do they even start on the waiting list. Here’s to hoping they add more season tickets.

by Disclaimer on Oct 18, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

They will be setting up times...

for STHs to talk to their reps and buy additional tickets or move their current tickets. I would be surprised if many people at all got off the waiting list even if they add more season tickets.

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by William Conwell on Oct 18, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Occupy StumptownFooty!!!!

I am the 97%!

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by Ryan Gates on Oct 18, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

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by William Conwell on Oct 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you didn't have season tickets?

You’re the 100%+

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by Kejsare on Oct 18, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

those 3% are the ones looking in from the outside now tho…. like me. So in a way, I’m in the 3% lol

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Oct 18, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

If 97% renewed, I'm not sure anyone on the list will get in line

I called a while back as a half-season ticket holder to see about going full-season next year, and they said I’m already in line for that but it all depends on what full-season holders do.

I hope I will get full-season tickets for next year, but I have trouble seeing that last 3% of season tickets getting past half-season ticket holders like myself who want to go full season.

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by almost awesome on Oct 18, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

That subject line doesn't make sense

I mean, I don’t think anyone in the 5,000 will get season tickets.

Unless they add that thou or so.

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by almost awesome on Oct 18, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

With expanding seats, they can expand the number of season ticket holders.

Look 12,500 of 18,600 is 67.2% of seating is STH.

If you look at other examples, the FO actually went less than other similarly situated teams.

Toronto FC 16,000 of 20,100 in 2007, 79.6%.
S**ttle has 32,000 of 36,000 is 88.8% [I think this is too high, IMHO]
VWFC has 15,500 of 21,000 is 73.8%

The Timbers played it safe. They didn’t overextend. Compared to others with high demand they held a hard cap. They can increase their STH by 1,500 without much issue. Still will be 68.9% if capacity is 20,300 (14,000/20,300).

Now, the 5,000, I’ve been lead to assume, includes all of the season ticket holders who put down a deposit for additional season tickets. So about 1,000 of those can current holders.

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by Kejsare on Oct 18, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about this, but...

I wanted another season ticket and my rep never asked me to put down another deposit, so I am pretty sure that it does not include current STHs in the 5,000 people on the waiting list.

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by William Conwell on Oct 18, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

People on the waiting list put down a deposit too.

Daaaaave @ SCUSA wrote: [Link]

Unfortunately, this is likely true. I’m not sure if this will help or not, but my understanding is that they have around 4,000 on their waiting list and 1,000 deposits among season ticket holders to add seats, which is where the 5,000 number comes from. So you have a couple of factors to consider, which may make things easier or harder depending on how it all shakes out.

From the head of the 107ist. I’ll take his word.

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by Kejsare on Oct 18, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here

Said the first step was renewing, once that was done we’d talk about moving/adding.

by ledjom on Oct 19, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

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