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Timbers Tid Bits: Elimination Edition

Well the Portland Timbers were officially eliminated last night by an own goal by the Philadelphia Union. Quite a disappointment if you ask me, but ultimately after giving up two very important home wins to San Jose and Houston it probably should have been expected.

So tomorrow is the final Portland Timbers game of the season. Unfortunate but true. We'll plan on following the play-offs here on Stumptown Footy, as well as continuing our amazing editorial coverage so I hope you guys will stick around.... Seriously it's gonna be amazing!

In the mean time, enjoy today's links!

Timbers news

Portland Timbers eliminated from postseason
New York's Thursday win end's Portland's MLS playoff hopes

Ex-Chelsea forward Spencer: DC United’s De Rosario deserves MVP
Interesting words from the Portland coach.

Paulson: Hope Timbers remember the feeling of missing playoffs
Some reactions from Merritt.

Other news (after the jump)

Star-divide

Detroit, Las Vegas Putting Pressure On MLS Expansion Plans For NY2
Detroit and Las Vegas moving forward with plans to become MLS's next expansion team. Pressure builds on NY2.

MLS reveals expansion rules, what could it mean for KC?
How will the MLS expansion draft potentially affect Sporting Kansas City? Let's wildly speculate and find out.

Poll: MLS MVP award goes to ...
Landon Donovan? David Beckham? Thierry Henry? Dwayne De Rosario? Vote!

Whitecaps' Cannon hoping for graceful bow out of MLS season
Joe Cannon knows what it means to be a fan of Major League Soccer.

MLS to hold re-entry draft Dec. 5 and Dec. 12
Players who want to find a way back into MLS will get their chance soon.

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MP has it about right

At the end of the day inexperience cost us. They wanted to go young and run teams out, which is fine, but experience and maturity does count for something. Our two most experienced MLS players – Jewsbury and Perkins – were probably two of our most consistent players and without either the results this year would’ve been brutal. But it’s all a process. First year is almost out of the way. They have a foundation to build on now and they know what needs upgrading. Next year people should expect improvement from the players who return, cohesive play, a higher place on the table, and playoffs. And eventually trophies have to be the expectation too.

Side note: MLS in Las Vegas would be a big mistake.

by yepyou'reright on Oct 21, 2011 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Troy Perkins is my MVP this year and it's not particularly close

For all the criticism I leveled at him earlier for his distribution “skills” (and for how inconsistent, yet better, he is at that now), the fact is that without Perkins in goal this team wouldn’t have been anywhere near a playoff place after about August.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very true

It’s tough to give it to someone else. Jewsbury would have been it at the half, and Chara was our most valuable player once he got settled in, but Perkins was the most consistent player we had all season.

Say what you want about America, thirteen bucks still gets you a hell of a lot of mice!

by No Pity on Oct 21, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd give the Timbers MVP to Chara

Chara was our most dynamic player both offensively and defensively, so he’s my MVP. Mainly I have Chara in there ahead of Perkins because of the position Perkins plays. Keepers keep the ball out of the goal, but they rarely contribute on offense (Perkins even less so). To put it another way, Perkins was a huge, gigantic reason the Timbers didn’t lose games, but we won games because of Chara.

Yeah, keepers get the short end of the stick. It’s not fair.

When I write, I write for the Timbers. Contributing Editor of Stumptown Footy

by Andrew Wheeler on Oct 21, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a shame we couldn't squeak in, but it was a fun first year

Here’s to going out with a win tomorrow.

Say what you want about America, thirteen bucks still gets you a hell of a lot of mice!

by No Pity on Oct 21, 2011 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Squeak in?

You’ve spent $13 quite well!

A much better first MLS season than I envisioned back in April. I was worried that we’d be closer to what Vancouver did this year. Already looking forward to next season.

It will be interesting to see who the Front Office brings in, and who they let go or trade.

Will we get a ‘rosterbation’ thread in the near future?

by HikinGDub on Oct 21, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

In fact just to give you some premature stuff a few tidbits I have seen from MP:

Roster will include 1 Home Grown Player and 2 players from the 2010 PDL Timbers.

Also can’t find it but I remember seeing that there are 4 names they are targeting for the next year and 1 of them is a big name…..

Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.

by Ryan Gates on Oct 21, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks!

What are the odds of actually landing all 4 ‘names’ that they are going for? I’d assume that if they are good players, other teams will be interested as well.

But, they probably want to play for awesome fans…so naturally….us!

by HikinGDub on Oct 21, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

They might try for 4 or more, but privately would settle

for three. “Better to aim high and be a little short than aim low and hit the mark.”

by yepyou'reright on Oct 21, 2011 8:50 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Oh...

A few of those names or overseas….

Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.

by Ryan Gates on Oct 21, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It just takes you back to the points we pissed away

Colorado, New York, Toronto and Seattle—all at home.

I think Merritt’s take is right on. Hopefully the lessons are learned and a stronger foundation is in place.

volatilelyle.com

by almost awesome on Oct 21, 2011 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally geeking out with the SBN app on Friday night

Nerdy? Yes, possibly. But I love mobile technology. Anyway…

Let’s not ignore the poor away record. Only 2 wins and a -15 or something. Inagural season or not that is goat piss poor.

by yepyou'reright on Oct 21, 2011 8:44 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Yep

The away record is what cost Portland a postseason berth – even more so than poor showings at home. Win more than twice on the road and the playoffs are realistic.

by pdb on Oct 21, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Righ, I know and agree

I think the games I listed above stick out to me because those were games we were playing well, or at least well enough and couldn’t hold onto. On the road we always seemed to come out flatter than an unemployed porn actress. Those weren’t points we pissed away—those were points we weren’t the least bit interested in. But we were holding points in our hand in these games.

Obviously our road impotency was crippling and very near (at least) the top of the list of things to address, but in spite of it had we played 15 extra minutes a handful of times in the comforts of home we could be in the playoffs.

volatilelyle.com

by almost awesome on Oct 21, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Home points given away

GW waited too long to trade for the defensive help needed to close those games down. We all knew early on that our wingbacks at the time weren’t ready to be regular starting XI, there wasn’t much depth at the position, and midfield had surplus to requirements.

by yepyou'reright on Oct 22, 2011 9:29 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Just a counter thought

Maybe the trade partners weren’t ready for the price we wanted or were asking to high a price to begin with and it took until July for them to come down….

Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.

by Ryan Gates on Oct 22, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Columbus won the SS in 30 games with 49 points in 2009....

LA will win the SS this year with 67-70 points in 34 games.

Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.

by Kejsare on Oct 22, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which means

If we came into the league in 2009 we would have made the playoffs….

Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.

by Ryan Gates on Oct 22, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quickly! To the Time Machine!

It’s going to be an interesting offseason, to say the least. Our Front Office was learning on the job, as well as the players. I think that the FO has a good plan of getting the ‘right’ players in, now it’s a matter of getting it done.

by HikinGDub on Oct 22, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who is with me?

I only have 2 seats in my Delorean so who wants to go back to the future?

Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.

by Ryan Gates on Oct 22, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cinders Logic

In 2009, it was how soft MLS was without Portland, and once Portland got up to MLS the Sounders success would be over.

In 2011, the Cinders get into MLS, predictably don’t make the playoffs, while Seattle gets better and better, even with the mighty Cinders in MLS.

Congrats on not being Vancouver, see you in 2012.

by luckystriker on Oct 22, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someday Sounders will suck and miss the playoffs

It’s inevitable. And when that day comes I will enjoy watching the carnage up there.

by yepyou'reright on Oct 22, 2011 3:57 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I'll add that DC has not made the playoffs in 4 years.

And they’re the most successful club in MLS history.

Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.

by Kejsare on Oct 22, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys really need a new derogatory name for the Timbers

We have teams called ‘Fire’ and ‘Heat’ in American sports. I don’t see how ‘Cinders’ is any good at casting shame. Obviously ‘Flounders’ is a gimme, but you guys are better than us at everything, so coming up with something for ‘Timbers’ shouldn’t be too hard.

Talk it over with your friends in your Mom’s Range on the way to your Dad’s Lake House.

Bad logic as it is, I don’t see what it has to do with you. I’m always happy to talk with fans of other teams, so long as they aren’t hardons. So maybe next time…

volatilelyle.com

by almost awesome on Oct 22, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it's actually negative, though

Cinders just doesn’t make any sense. Being hot in sports is desirable—for example how would you describe Albert Pujols? On fire? Hot?

It’s much better but yes, it is still lame. ‘scum’ and ‘land’ just aren’t quite close enough to make it really pop.

volatilelyle.com

by almost awesome on Oct 22, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you expect from the fans who invented "Seat - tle!" "Soun - ders!"

Seriously, it’s looking at them right in the face: the Poopland Gimpers. Come on!

When I write, I write for the Timbers. Contributing Editor of Stumptown Footy

by Andrew Wheeler on Oct 22, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

'Gimpers' would be much better

And feces always plays well in condescension.

Now that we have that settled, let’s get to work on a better name for ‘Emerald City Supporters’

volatilelyle.com

by almost awesome on Oct 22, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Follow me here

Emerald City → Land of Oz → Munchkinland →

The Lollypop Guild.

Eh? Who’s with me?

When I write, I write for the Timbers. Contributing Editor of Stumptown Footy

by Andrew Wheeler on Oct 22, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

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