The Lumberyard: Fresh Hop Tastival
by William Duke on Oct 6, 2011 7:15 PM PDT
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PrintI know it's been a while since we've had a new Lumberyard post up, but we've been fairly busy with travel and a host of matches lately, and it's kind of fallen by the wayside. Regardless, The Lumberyard's back, and with it are a couple of things to talk about this week to tide you over until our Portland Timbers take the field again.
First up: the Oregon Brewers Guild's Fresh Hop Tastival. I went to this last year, and found that it compared favorably to other local beer fests in terms of selection (almost all fresh hop beers!) and crowd, but the location at Oaks Park is kind of weird, with no easily accessible public transit options. I'm personally pretty excited about trying Beer Valley's Fresh Hop Leafer Madness and Ninkasi's Tricerarillo (something I can only assume is their Tricerahops made with fresh Amarillo hops). I've already had a few of the beers on the list and I will say that Hopworks' Give Me Liberty is outstanding. Are you planning on going, and if so what are you looking forward to trying?
Next: Jurgen Klinsmann's roster decisions. What do you think about Klinsmann's decisions so far? I'm a little worried about the Omar Gonzalez news, but I have to admit that it's only because he's considering Mexico; if he had dual citizenship to somewhere else I'd probably say more power to him. I think it's been kind of fun to see the effects of a fresh set of eyes on the USMNT, and the Shea move has been incredible. I probably won't watch Saturday's friendly against Honduras live, (see above), but I'll look at the replay at least. What do you want to see out of the Nats on Saturday, or what are you looking forward to?
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Fresh Hops is my favorite festival
The potent hop flavor drives the bigger crowds away, so that what’s left is a beer nerdy core. And I had a chance to try a couple of fresh hops selections already at Bottles during the Vancouver match last weekend. Always a fan of the Ft George Fresh Hop Vortex. Looking forward to trying Double Mountain’s Killer Green.
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Ft George
I’m on the fence about Ft George in general. I’ve been down there a couple times; the first time, my beer (can’t quite remember what it was, but pretty sure it was one of their IPAs) was a bit disappointing, just not quite right. Second time I was much happier. In general I like their setup and vibe. Was at a bar tonight, was very indecisive, and ended up with the 1811. Again, I was disappointed. I really do want to like them, and my brother is a pretty big fan (especially of the vortex), but the beer is just letting me down. Curious what other people’s experiences are.
by d-d-d-d-money on Oct 6, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
the vortex is delish
at bottles on tap
by portlandpadre on Oct 7, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Killer Green
That stuff is a rock star fresh hop beer. I know they had a release party earlier this week at Horse Brass, but I missed it. I’m down with the Ft George Vortex.
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by William Duke on Oct 6, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Double Mountain did another fresh hop this year
I heard that it is pretty good. Its called Killer Red and used Perle hops as the fresh hop.
by RoseColoredGlasses on Oct 7, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I am not sure about the Klinsman era
So far it looks like he is trying to meld the Latino skills with German engineering. Should be interesting though. I really think his influence will be more on the development and youth side. The US really needs to change the way we find and develop players and I think the MLS will be the ones who do it.
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So, the future of US Soccer...
Looks like a Volkswagen Beetle? That’s a bit frightening.
by d-d-d-d-money on Oct 6, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Or worse...
Bornstein
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by William Duke on Oct 6, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh the humanity!
But seriously, I thought Klinsmann’s comments (on SBI) about looking around Europe and the U-teams and the amount of players and talent in the pipeline was encouraging. I know there are people who talk about Gatt and Mixx and others, and complain about their absences, but I think Klinsmann has been pretty consistent about not rushing the younger players.
by d-d-d-d-money on Oct 6, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
hey now
the new ones are pretty cool
Portland, where playing Star Wars music is cool, and doing it in a Kilt makes you famous.
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmmmm
have to figure out how to mend that cleverly…..
Portland, where playing Star Wars music is cool, and doing it in a Kilt makes you famous.
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 6, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
why was Klinsmann hired?
You raise an interesting point with respect to finding and developing youth talent. Shouldn’t the primary goal of every national team coach be success in the World Cup (and other major tournaments)? Obviously in the US, future development of players and growth of the game in general is really important, and more important than in other countries with established soccer traditions, but Klinsmann isn’t going to last long enough to accomplish that if he’s not “successful” in 2014.
by d-d-d-d-money on Oct 6, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Roster selections
I know a lot of people have been clamoring for Gonzalez and John, and wondering why Ream keeps getting called up when his form has been terrible and his team not much better. And I’ll be honest – I haven’t seen much of those players, nor have I been impressed with Fiscal. And I think it’s fair to question call-ups and omissions. There were those who complained about Rogers and Castillo getting called up, and guess what, they got left off this time. With Fiscal playing, it’s not as though we’re getting blown out. Could he be better? Yes. But I think you also have to give players a chance to learn and grow and become accustomed to their teammates. Most players aren’t awesome in their first few caps (and those that are (cough-eddie johnson-cough) don’t always pan out)
When it comes to midfielders, I find it amusing that people complain about omissions like Mixx, Feilhaber and Adu (and why there are so many DMs), but also say that Klinsmann isn’t calling in our best players. Because all the D-Mids are our best midfielders. If you look at the roster, the only midfield selection I would question is Larentowicz. Other than that, you have Bradley (starting in Serie A), Dempsey, Shea, Edu (no matter what one thinks of the SPL, he starts for a Europa league team), Beckerman (one of, if not the, best D-Mids in MLS), Beasley (in form for Puebla), and Williams (regular playing time in the Bundesliga). So I see the Feilhaber (his team is worse than NY) or Adu for Larentowicz argument, but other than that, I just don’t see many other options.
Decent point about our best players being D-Mids
I’ve been pretty happy with Beckerman and Shea as well. Also, I’d like to see if we couldn’t use Bradley as more of an attacking Center Mid than what he was like under his pops.
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Bradley advanced
i’ve thought about this as well, especially considering how successful he was at Heerenveen. I think if you pair Bradley and Edu, if they could learn how to play with each other, and who goes forward when, you get two players that can go forward, but both have the defensive chops required. The downside with both is that you’re not going to get the teasing, cute ball to dissect a defense. There’s just not enough imagination there. But if you have enough of that from your wings, then maybe consistency and a little bit of forward movement is all that is required from guys like Bradley and Edu. But I’m definitely interested to see what kind of player Bradley becomes at Verona, and how both are deployed by Klinsmann.
by d-d-d-d-money on Oct 7, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
What I'm watching for in the friendlies
With all these D-mids, what formation do we play?
Williams – does he play, where, and how does he fit in
Does the Chandler at LB experiment continue?
Or does Klinsmann turn it on its head and try Beasley at left back and Chandler at right mid. That would give you potent offense on the wings, stick Bradley and Williams (or Edu) in the middle (they could at least communicate in German), and Dempsey and Altidore up front. I know it’s crazy, but I think Klinsmann’s crazy enough to try it. Though this might appear as giving up on his 4-3-3, so for that reason I don’t see him trying something like this.
Finally, what sort of form is Gooch in?
I’d love to see a good result, but more than that I want to see improvement (and Williams!).
to take a closer to home angle on this
I’ve been wondering if there was any of chance (in the future) of our guys making the US team? Like Nagbe (I think he was born in USA) or Jewsbury, or anyone else.
What do you guys think?
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by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 6, 2011 11:12 PM PDT reply actions
Nope Nagbe was born in Liberia
http://www.portlandtimbers.com/players/darlington-nagbe
He had visa issues and that is why he wasn’t at the Draft in person but was in Canada. However he really wants to get his green card and once he does he is all good to play for the US.
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
Oh and
Nagbe or Cooper if his form really comes back are our best bets to play for the US team.
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Thanks for the info
no love for Jewsbury? maybe another all-star appearance or two could raise his profile a bit?
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by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 7, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Problem with Captain Jack
We have a glut at the D-mid position with the following players: Ricardo Clark, Jermaine Jones, Michael Bradley, Maurice Edu, Kyle Beckerman, Kyle Larecowitz (sp?) Jose Torres
That is just to name a few.
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
wow butchered that
Jeff Larentowicz, got stuck on Kyle for some reason.
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you were too worried about his last name, I would've been too
think I’m a little confused. Jack is a D-mid, or just a mid squeezed out by D-mids??? I’d always considered him a more offensive player, thats the only reason I ask.
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by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 7, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
I always thought of him more as D-mid because of his excellent Defensive work and really that is his role now on the Timbers
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
Okay
Not knowing a ton about soccer, I’d always considered him more of an offensive player because he seems to be really good at sending the ball into the box, corner kicks, that sort of stuff, I’ve sort of thought of him as Beckham-ish. Am I wrong?
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 8, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No you aren't wrong
He is a good offensive weapon on set pieces but his style of play is not suited to be a creator during the run of play. Does that make sense? To put it into a basketball terms he is like a someone who rebounds the basketball and gets all of his points from there, meaning he scores a lot on put backs but doesn’t create his own shot.
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hooray for basketball analogies
so he’s more of a Dwight Howard (rebounds and put backs) than the more point guard-esque player I thought he was
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 9, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Exactly, Chara is more of a Point Guard, a true point Guard not the Shooting ones like Derick Rose (think Stockton or Jason Kidd because he can D up.)
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
I'd actually compare him more to Rondo
Rondo plays amazing D and can light it up with ease if he needs to
Blazers win!
Chara = soccer Rondo???
lock that dude up forever quick.
Rondo is one of my favorite non-Blazer hoopers.
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 10, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried the Deschutes Fresh Hop Mirror Pond last week
It was a refreshing change from the classic.
Blazers win!
Jubelale is out now so for me there is no other Deschutes beer until January
so so so so good
by pdb on Oct 7, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I second this.
As soon as it turns cold that’s pretty much my staple beer. I did try the Fresh Hop Mirror Pond, and thought it was pretty tasty, too. Not nearly as bready or “biscuity” as Mirror Pond normally is.
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Honest Question here
As most of you know I am not a consumer of adult beverages, but I was wondering what you guys look for in a beer? I love me some Root Beer and have some certain criteria to look for that I like and was wondering how the heck it works for beer.
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I think it depends on what style of beer you're talking about.
Asking what somebody looks for in a beer is like asking what somebody looks for in a sandwich. Yes, they all have a few things in common, but what makes them different can vary wildly.
I sort of have the Will Rogers attitude with beer (as I do with BBQ) in that I’ve never met a style I didn’t like. Some breweries are better at hitting a certain style than others though.
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It's probably not dissimilar
I look for beers that have some depth and body to them – I tend to not like lagers (Budweiser, Miller Lite, etc) because they’re watery and bland. I like to be challenged a bit, so I will try ultra-hoppy beers (the more hops, the more “bite” a beer’s flavor has) and beers that linger on the palate a bit. Reds, IPA’s, strong ales, and ales generally fit that description for me, but I will try anything that sounds interesting.
I wouldn't say all lagers are watery and bland.
There’s all sorts of good lagers that can be full bodied and lighter on the palate (the classics Sam Adams Boston Lager and Pilsner Urquell are the easiest examples) . What makes a lager a lager isn’t how it tastes or looks, but the kind of yeast used and the temperature at which the beer is fermented. Lagers use a bottom-fermenting yeast, and are fermented at a lower temperature and for a longer time than ales are. /beergeekery
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by William Duke on Oct 7, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
oops
I meant “There are,” not “there’s”
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by William Duke on Oct 7, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
You're right, they're not
I like Pilsner Urquell pretty well, and Trumer Pils is OK too (as is Oskar Blues’ Little Yella Pils). It’s just generally not a style of beer I’m all that interested in.
I feel like lagers get pushed around too much man!
Heater Allen is a great local-ish (McMinnville) brewery that specializes in flavorful lagers.
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by William Duke on Oct 7, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Great American Beer Fest results for Lagers this year
Old Milwaukee??? hell of a surprise to me. Based on the results below I had better taste in lagers in college.
Category: 32 American-Style Lager, Light Lager or Premium Lager – 55 Entries
Gold: Old Milwaukee Light, Pabst Brewing Co., Woodridge, IL
Silver: Busch Light, Anheuser-Busch, St. Louis, MO
Bronze: Pabst Blue Ribbon Light, Pabst Brewing Co., Woodridge, IL
Category: 33 American-Style Lager or Cream Ale or Lager – 31 Entries
Gold: Red Dog, Miller Brewing Co., Milwaukee, WI
Silver: Rainier, Pabst Brewing Co., Woodridge, IL
Bronze: Old Style, Pabst Brewing Co., Woodridge, IL
Category: 34 Vienna-Style Lager – 32 Entries
Gold: Jomo Lager, Starr Hill Brewery, Crozet, VA
Silver: Cityfest, Brewzzi, West Palm Beach, FL
Bronze: Vienna Red Lager, Iron Hill Brewery & Restaurant, Wilmington, DE
Category: 36 American-Style Amber Lager – 58 Entries
Gold: Uberbrau, Humperdink’s Restaurant and Brewery, Dallas, TX
Silver: Colorado Native, AC Golden Brewing Co., Golden, CO
Bronze: Florida Beer Florida Lager, Florida Beer Co., Melbourne, FL
Category: 38 American-Style Dark Lager – 16 Entries
Gold: Durango Dark, Durango Brewing Co., Durango, CO
Silver: Session Black, Full Sail Brewing Co., Hood River, OR
Bronze: Schwarzbier, AC Golden Brewing Co., Golden, CO
by RoseColoredGlasses on Oct 7, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It's important to note the category though
“American Style Light Lagers” are to lagers as McDonald’s is to a proper cheeseburger.
Full Sail Session Black is really dang good, by the way. Oh, and the Rogue Hazelnut Brown that won the gold medal for specialty beers will change your life. It’s that good.
True dat on the Sessions Black
Also nice to see that Breakside got silver for their Dry Stout. Breakside beers are stellar all around but that stout is real classy.
by RoseColoredGlasses on Oct 7, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wish the food at Breakside was less terrible and more affordable
I love their beer, but I’ve eaten there a few times and ugh.
How'd you do?
A friend of mine ran it as well, it was at least a decent day for a marathon. Congrats.
Dude that's really cool
I can’t even imagine how long it would take me to run 26 miles. At my treadmill pace, it would take…a long time.
man, the fastest singular mile I've run was like 9/12 or 10 minutes
I cant even fathom doing 26 of them
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 10, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
although, its sort of a way out of the blue goal of mine to complete one
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 10, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I ran a 10 minute mile once but that was two years, one ankle injury, and several pounds ago
I like to think that I could get back there, but if I had to do it today there’s no way I could run a 10 min mile.
Pretty sure I ran one in the neighborhood of 9:30
but that was a few years, and way too many #s ago
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 15, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I ran a 3 miler at 19:57 3 weeks ago. Which is 6:40s.
A minute off my PR of 19:08 from last summer. 6:20s.
I know in high school I ran a 11:32 3000m [200m shy of 2 miles].
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
jeebus you're fast
lol
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by Sean in Vancouver on Oct 15, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
In HS
for the same run (we had to run essentially 2 miles in 12 mins to make the team) my best was 11:27 for 3000m.
Oh and the Goalies even had to run 2 miles in 12 mins to make the team. We were the most fit team in the state.
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
The idea of running a marathon astounds me.
I have a co-worker who runs them repeatedly and it still drops my jaw when I think about running 26 miles. Hell, I don’t like to think about driving 26 miles. Congrats.
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by William Duke on Oct 10, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I would find half-marathons remarkably easy.
After 10 miles I started needing to take breaks. If it was 13 miles I could’ve easily done under 2:30, maybe around 2 hours.
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
Fresh Hop Thoughts
Quick follow-up, in case anybody’s still interested or looking at this:
I had a couple of great beers, and several mediocre ones, because for some reason I convince myself that breweries that I’ve never heard of might pull something great out for a festival. I reccomend finding the Beer Valley Fresh Hop Leafer Madness and of course Double Mountain’s Killer Green. Also good were Upright’s Hits from the Vine (though that style doesn’t lend itself to great hop-forward stuff) and HUB’s stuff. The bad beers I had were from a newish brewery here that I kind of like (Burnside) and one I’d never heard of, (Philadelphia’s).
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Also, Ninkasi's stuff was great, as was Cascade's Fresh Hop Porter (pretty un-conventional, but good).
Anybody else go?
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by William Duke on Oct 10, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
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