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This is a tad late so you might have read about it elsewhere already, but essentially we know what the 2012 season is going to look like. We don't have a hard schedule, mind you, but we know, at least, what the format is going to be... And it's not pretty.

We knew already that the schedule was going to change and that it was going to be unbalanced. With the Montreal Impact joining the league MLS HQ made it known for a while that we were looking at an unbalanced schedule rather than adding two extra games a year.

As such here is what they've given us:

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REGULAR SEASON:
 
Each of the 19 MLS clubs will play 34 games, 17 at home and 17 away.

 

 

All clubs will play an equal schedule within their respective conference.
 
Western Conference – 24 in-conference + 10 out-of-conference games:

  • Western Conference clubs will play each West opponent 3 times (24 games):
  • West clubs will play 4 conference opponents twice at home and once away
  • They will play the other 4 conference opponents once at home and twice away.
  • The home and away games will be reversed in 2013.
  • Western Conference clubs will play each East opponent once each (10 games):
  • 5 of these will be at home and 5 will be away.
  • The East opponents each team faces at home and away will be reversed in 2013.

Eastern Conference – 25 in-conference + 9 out-of-conference games:

  • Eastern Conference clubs will play 25 games against other East clubs:
  • East teams will play 7 conference opponents three times each (21 games) and
  • 2 conference opponents twice each (4 games).
  • Eastern Conference clubs will play each West opponent once each (9 games):
  • Some will play 4 at home and 5 away while others will play 5 at home and 4 away.
  • The West opponents each team faces at home and away will be reversed in 2013. 

So essentially this means that the Portland Timbers will play Seattle (and all other Western Conference teams) three times each with half the western conference teams being played home, away, home and the other half being played away, home, away with the reverse being true for 2013.

Against Eastern Conference teams the Timbers will play each team once half at home and the other half with the teams being reversed in 2013.

Confused yet? Good because you should be. MLS is known for being a convoluted league and they sure as hell didn't disappoint this time around.

My biggest frustration is simply how it cheapens the entire league. Try as MLS does it's very tough to argue that an unbalanced schedule doesn't cheapen the Supporters Shield and, more locally, the Cascadia Cup.

Let's look a bit more in depth at the Cascadia Cup competition.

Last year, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver each played against each other once at home and once away for a total of four games each. This year it will be a six game series which is all well and good except now whoever wins the Cup will have an asterisk applied because scheduling imbalances mess up the competition. Seattle could very well play both Portland and Vancouver at home four times. That would give them a meaningful statistical home advantage over Vancouver and Portland. Ergo, the Cup means less to the supporters.

I won't say it'll become meaningless, but, especially for new fans, it's going to be really difficult for them to become enamored in the local rivalry because it's simply not fair.

The same argument holds up for the Supporters Shield. LA won it this year and was by and large considered to be the best team for it. Everything was fair. Next year? Well now there are other things to consider. Who did they play at home? Who did they play away from home? Were they an Eastern Conference team (largely regarded to be an easier conference)? These things matter now.

It also places much more weight on MLS Cup which MLS HQ probably wants anyway. The problem there is that the play offs are still flawed so that a bottom dwelling play off team can win it, thus cheapening the whole thing.

There were some fairly large changes in the format though, which I do like:

  1. Conference champions will now be decided by a 2-game home-away aggregate goal format (as opposed to the singular game from this year)
  2. MLS Cup will now be hosted by the team with the better regular season. (!)

That second point is what I'm most exited about. MLS Cup traditionally has been a neutral ground affair. But as more teams invested in stadiums MLS Cup will now be properly played at the home stadium of the play off team with high regular season points.

Anyway, I've probably rambled on enough. What do you think of the new format? Are you excited about playing Seattle and Vancouver more next year? Sound off!

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Reading around the web, lots of people are really pissed

but all these people are still going to be on board for MLS in 2012, anyway.

Home and away across the board would be ideal. But I understand the need for all this, and I’m not too upset about it. I don’t like the twice by seven thrice by three setup in the East, and I hope they get something else figured out before the West goes to 10 teams.

Someone here was saying that in the past, the Cascadia Cup has been predicated on the final home and away matches against each rival. So I imagine the groups will come up with something fairer than just the six matches straight up. Also, I imagine MLS will be sensitive to our tourney and not schedule four home matches for one of the teams.

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by almost awesome on Nov 21, 2011 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

Think people are pissed at the playoffs

But you would have to think they may tweak the playoff structure with going to this method… but I could be wrong

by Kazper on Nov 21, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why

This year the Top 10 teams also happened to be Top 5 for both conferences. Not saying it will work out like that every year because there are alway’s quirks from time-to-time, but Top 5 in each conference with an unbalanced schedule seems very straight forward imo.

Also, the two-game conference final is a big improvement. I would’ve liked to see KC have another shot at Houston and RSL another shot at LA. I bet most of their fans feel the same way.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

In defense of the unbalanced schedule

First off, I’m not crazy about it either. But I understand why they’re doing it. That said…

Did any supporters bother to ask the players and coaches what they think? Because they’re the ones who would have to play a balanced schedule with 19 or 20 teams in North America. MLS did ask and this was mentioned several times by Garber.

Also, consider that the western conference has 6 of its 9 teams in the Pacific time zone. With a balanced schedule the Timbers would play west teams 16 times (8 × 2 b/c Timbers are one of the nine teams) with 8 away in west. Timbers would then play 20 games against eastern clubs, 10 away in east. From a logistical and operational point-of-view this makes no sense for a North American league especially if also want USOC, CCL, and MLS compatible with FIFA dates. Unbalanced schedule is better for our club.

Also, I think it’s hyperbole to say it “cheapens the league”. The U.S. is not England or Spain. People need to remember this. If some Eurosnob or some dense Euro – who probably wouldn’t watch much MLS anyway – has a problem with the unbalanced MLS schedule give that person a map and tell them to take a geography and business class.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 12:41 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Cheapens the league, no

Cheapens the Supporters Shield, definitely. What is the point of having the SS if there’s not a balanced schedule?

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 21, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the MLS has had an unbalanced schedule in the past, and many times

I think we’re going to have to start viewing MLS as a very long tournament. No one moans that all the teams in the World Cup don’t play each other.

I agree that the SS will be cheapened, but it’s still a big deal. Hopefully its cheapening will result in a more glamorous MLS cup.

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by almost awesome on Nov 21, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the solution to the Cascadia Cup issue goes back to the USL-era where there was an unbalanced schedule

Make the final home and away matches the ones that count for the Cup. That way, for example we’ll say we have two away matches vs. S**ttle and we lose the first and draw the second, and win our home match, we get 4 out of 6 points.

It will be discussed at the Cascadia Summit this winter, I’m sure. Which Portland is hosting this year.

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 21, 2011 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

Should be a really interesting Cascadia Summit

The final home/away matches arrangement worked well – I don’t remember any big complaints about it.

Another CC option might be to award 4 points for an away win, 3 points for a home win, 2 points for an away draw, 1 point for a home draw, and 0 points for any loss.

When I write, I write for the Timbers. Contributing Editor of Stumptown Footy

by Andrew Wheeler on Nov 21, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

IF this stays as the schedule format for awhile

How does it cheapen the Cascadia Cup? More games does not necessarily cheapen the cup. I understand the concerns of competitive home field advantage, but that doesn’t cheapen the cup – it merely changes the rules. May it be more difficult to win? Yes. Is it still one of the prizes every Timbers fan wants to win? Yes.

Balanced makes perfect sense logically, but it just doesn’t logistically. Too much travel and a congested fixture schedule with international break and tournaments. Even with the reported changes to the Open Cup (starting and finishing earlier, and no stupid play in games for MLS).

by shrekpdx on Nov 21, 2011 12:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

it is not that it will be more difficult to win

it is that it will be easier to win for the team with the “good” schedule that year.

"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)

by PDXBuckeye on Nov 21, 2011 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean like the NFL?

Or to a little bit the NBA? Neither have a balanced schedule and especially the NFL. Just look at the San Fransico 49ers who by far have the easiest division in the league and get to play each of their division opponents twice! 6 wins right there out of 16. Just means they have to win 3 out of there other 10 just to make the play offs.

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by Ryan Gates on Nov 21, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

more just the cascadia cup

not so much the league wide situation

"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)

by PDXBuckeye on Nov 28, 2011 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I like it

Personally I really like the schedule change. The sheer size of the US makes it difficult on travel and with the rule that teams are only allowed X number of chartered flights per year travel across time zones is difficult.

I now know that I get to possible travel to San Jose twice, Vancouver twice, RSL twice, LA 4 times, Seattle Twice, and Colorado Twice. All are easily with in driving distance and therefore better for away supporters which will be good for the atmosphere at the games themselves.

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by Ryan Gates on Nov 21, 2011 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Good point about away support

More opportunities to see Timbers in person.

Also consider that our club, Seattle, and Vancouver traveled 50,000(?) or more miles. The new schedule format is good for our club and Cascadia. Hopefully TA/107ist see it that way.

As for Cascadia Cup, as mentioned change the rules.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 1:25 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Wow

Didn’t realize it was around 50,000 miles more than other teams. I can see that. The Blazers are so far from any other NBA team that they do the same thing. Their closest division rival is SLC and that is 600 miles away.

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by Ryan Gates on Nov 21, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean 50,000 or more total miles for each Cascadia team

Not sure what east coast teams did, but I don’t think Cascadia did 50,000 more than them. Just to clarify that part of it. Vancouver traveled 60,000 and I think Timbers were around 50,000 miles. Down in SoCal, Galaxy were around 35,000.

Consider that PDX doesn’t have non-stop flights to everywhere and Timbers were doing a lot of connecting. The new schedule makes travel easier for our club and should help improve their quality of play… come to think of it, the Alaska Airlines partnership makes more sense now.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather there be divisions then

Play your division 4 times each, play your conference home and away. and play the other conference once.

Of course this might be the thinking long term when more teams are added.

I just do not think the league is at the point they had to adjust the schedule like this.

"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)

by PDXBuckeye on Nov 21, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

My biggest complaint is the playoff set up

I think it makes perfect sense to regionalize competition. The unbalanced schedule might diminish slightly the rivalry between Portland and Seattle and Vancouver, but we’ll also get a potentially higher level of animosity with SJ and RSL.

But the drawbacks of the regular season should have been made up for with a better designed postseason. Since the importance of the Supporters Shield is greatly diminished by the unbalanced schedule, they should have done a better job of making the MLS Cup more balanced. The competition between the two conferences is already limited enough during the regular season — why limit it even further in the most important series of matches of the season?

I loved Grant Wahl’s suggestion of a group stage at the outset of the competition. Get the teams mixing early in the competition. If the western conference is vastly superior to the eastern, so be it. I want to see the league’s best two teams competing in the final; I don’t care if they’re from the same conference. I want to be able to watch the final and say, “That was some of the best soccer I’ve seen in this league this year.”

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by Andrew Wheeler on Nov 21, 2011 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

Good points, but I do think the new playoff is an improvement

But it’s not yet a completed product either.

Let’s think about it long term… let’s say in the long run there are more than 20, maybe up to 30, top-flight soccer teams in the U.S. and Canada. Regional conferences would make sense. But with FIFA sanctions capping leagues at 20 teams (true or false?), in the long run I could see two MLS leagues with 15 – 20 teams each organized by region. Again, this is very long term. Wahl’s suggestion would be a great playoff format if the league(s) ever have up to 30 teams… it would be something like a CL for U.S./Canada. Again, very long term but MLS has to also think long term and its current emphasis on regional play foreshadows that future.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

20 team cap

This is a Blatter hope, like Women Soccer teams in Skirts and Getting rid of Racism with a handshake.

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by Ryan Gates on Nov 21, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, okay. Just a Blatter thing. Good to know. Thanks.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Anytime

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by Ryan Gates on Nov 21, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My biggest fear with the new playoff format

is that it will be in Dallas, Columbus, DC, SJ, or NE. Doubt any of them will be a high seed next year though, except Dallas perhaps.

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 7:19 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Play it right

Dallas can get 20k+. They just don’t do it often.

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by Kejsare on Nov 21, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

In 2011, 11.8% of our matches were against Cascadia clubs

In 2010, 13.3% of our matches were against Vancouver alone! And each game was pretty exciting. Portland developed quite a rivalry during the two years sans S**ttle.

Some positives to take from this.

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by Kejsare on Nov 21, 2011 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

good point

13% is not too bad.

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by Ryan Gates on Nov 21, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's think about it from a competitive point-of-view too

If Timbers played an imbalanced schedule in 2011 their results this year would’ve been about the same, if you’re using points per game against west and eastern teams. Maybe a few points less overall, but about the same. Since we all should expect them to improve next year, having extra fixtures against a possibly tough west shouldn’t be a big concern.

BTW, I expect Kejsare to fact check my points-per-game calculation within minutes. :)

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It'd have been even better if we'd gotten to play two at home against LA Galaxy

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by Andrew Wheeler on Nov 21, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, with a boost in goal differential too

I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.

by yepyou'reright on Nov 21, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This was inevitible

I am alright with the new format. Personally I think the gradual move to what would essentially be two separate leagues in the west in east to be really exciting and changes like this help push us in that direction.

To those who think that playing Vancouver, and Seattle three times a year is going to cheapen our rivalry, Rangers and Celtic in play each at least three times a year (and with Scotland’s split scheduling, it becomes 4) and they are still one of the fiercest rivalries in the world. Now if it became that all we played was Seattle and Vancouver, then I would start worrying, but right now, I think that it will not hurt anything.

by Lefaid on Nov 21, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Good points.

Sadly, the SPL is in decline.

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by Kejsare on Nov 21, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Several people have mentioned an eventual move to 2 leagues

Why would that happen, and how would it work?

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by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 22, 2011 12:18 AM PST reply actions  

If/when MLS reaches 32+ teams

I can see them becoming two full leagues.

In a sense they’d each play balanced schedules and only meet the other conference in the play-offs.

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by Geoff Gibson on Nov 22, 2011 6:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

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