Roster news
by Ryan Gates on Nov 23, 2011 5:33 PM PST
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PrintI have yet to track down exactly who it might be but here are a couple of things I have found out:
- 1 Portland Timber is Retiring possibly more
- 2 or more Portland Timbers did not have their contracts renewed
- 1 DP Signing could be announced in the next two weeks as Wilkinson is in talks with an international player
- 2 or more Timbers will be getting their Green Cards and therefore will not be using an international slot
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its going to be a busy couple weeks just keeping up with the moves, let alone making them
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Nov 23, 2011 6:27 PM PST reply actions
From Merritt's twitter:
int’l player market tango = many things, but boring not one of them. fortunately we have one of the (few) good ginger dancers leading for us
So the international DP is a GINGER???!?!?!!?!?!
I think you're right about Umony
I think I saw something on Twitter about him being on trial with another South African club. I believe it’s a SA club that’s loaning him to us. In a way I’m disappointed because I always felt like he could contribute, but realistically we probably don’t have room for him.
As for the retiring player
if it’s not Adin Brown or Goldthwaite I really can’t imagine who it would be. The only other players over 30 on the roster are Perkins and Jewsbury, and it’s clearly not them. I think the next oldest player we have is Futty, who’s only 28. And he’s still playing for the Gambia.
If it’s not Brown of Goldthwaite, maybe Eddie Johnson if the concussion thing is worse than we thought? I hope that’s not it, cause he was one of my favorites, but I have to wonder…
I was just about to post Johnson
Concussions have been knocking out some football players as young as college and high school so it could possibly be him. He’s the only one unless it’s a guy like Chris Taylor who knows he’d never cut it? But even then he’d be able to play in a lower league probably
He'd been cleared for full contact and did take part in the post-season practices.
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
I would be surprised if it's not Brown and Goldie
I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.
by yepyou'reright on Nov 23, 2011 9:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
In other words...
…not much practical affect.
Paulson’s tweet did say that ‘several’ contracts won’t be renewed, however.
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by almost awesome on Nov 23, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
How many international slots do we have tied up?
So all these guys took up international slots last year, right?:
Kalif, Chara, Futty, Gleeson, Eddie Johnson, Marcelin, Nagbe, Palmer, Perlaza, Umony, Wallace?
(Purdy and Lopez have duel US citizenship I think)
Assuming Umony isn’t back, and assuming that a couple guys get green cards, we still have too many. Did a couple of these guys already have green cards last year? I don’t think any of them are US Citizens. What am I missing?
I had some of the same thoughts
In reply to your list above I would imagine Wallace has a green card (went to college at Maryland I am almost positive) already before the start of this year.
With regards to Umony, I am a bit sad to see him go. His salary according to the US Players Union was something in the mid 80’s I think (which is too high) but he looked good when he was on the pitch for the first team and the reserves.
Wallace
Need to check on his status but thought for sure he was not an international. Yes he did play at Maryland and won a national championship there.
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
I dunno
He was born in Costa Rica. I haven’t been able to find anything one way or another on whether he’s a permanent US resident.
Pretty sure that Wallace and Nagbe do have their green cards.
Futty and Johnson have both been in the US to at least be in the process and could definitely be in the running to be counted as domestic players next year.
Purdy and Lopez both have US citizenship.
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by William Conwell on Nov 24, 2011 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Former Timber, from O-Live
Note: The Impact released defender and former Portland player Cameron Knowles Wednesday. Knowles had been training with the Impact, but the team informed him he wouldn’t be joining the Impact’s MLS roster.
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
I think what really happened is that Goldthwaite threatened to retire if we didn't make him DP
and we’ll cave in two weeks.
So is Chara DP next year or not? I thought in his last chat MP said yes
volatilelyle.com
Yes Chara is a DP
For the length of the contract.
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
What does MP hope to achieve with these Tweets?
I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.
by yepyou'reright on Nov 23, 2011 9:43 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I'm happy to have the subtle clues
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by almost awesome on Nov 23, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
marketing
fans feel like they are a part of the club.
Don't pee on that
by ShiverMeTimbers on Nov 23, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder that too
Usually it is a response to a fan……. Just not sure what the whole point of him responding
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
I don't bother to even doubt what MP and management are doing
Cuz apparently they are doing something right to have such a positive first year, and it seems like they are really bringing the fans into the team. I like it, its nice to have an owner actually keep the fans engaged rather than staying way away from all of us.
+100000
I totally agree with that sentiment and I feel like the FO are doing it right. I just wondering why MP is so different from most other owners…
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
Great article
Curious to see who retires and who gets waived.
Say what you want about America, thirteen bucks still gets you a hell of a lot of mice!
by No Pity on Nov 23, 2011 10:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Just a clarification
The waiving of individuals already occurred, in the Timbers’ case they just did not renew contracts…
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
I still do not understand the difference
So the MLS teams who waived players that was announced already is different than not renewing contracts? I thought that was exactly what those teams did. So why did those teams announce their waived players (ie unrenewed contracts) while the Timbers will at some later date? It seems as though it is unfair to the players that a team could announce this at any time because the player has to find a new employer.
Please drop some knowledge as I clearly do not understand the difference.
The Difference
A waived player still had X number of years on his contract.
In this case the players had a 1 year guaranteed contracts and a team option for year #2 and the Timbers declined the option.
Nice and easy difference is this: Waived = still has guaranteed years left
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
Also
Just like in the NFL a waived player goes through the so called “waiver wire” or in this case a waiver draft. This is done because the player still has X years left on his contract and therefore the team that claims him off waivers will then pick up his contract (theoretically but I don’t know if this is specifically done).
Now a player who has his contract not renewed is just a free agent at the end of the year…
Contributing editor to Stumptown Footy the Portland Timbers SBN blog.
http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/roster-rules-and-regulations
See item G) Re-entry process and H) Waivers
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by William Conwell on Nov 24, 2011 12:49 AM PST up reply actions
I know I'm late to the party...
And this is more jokingly than anything else, but you guys can have JeVaughn Watson for really cheap. I honestly think he’d fit your team better, a la Palmer and Chabala. (Houston Dynamo)
:) Good luck with the DP signing. Hope it’s someone who will help ya’ll steal Cascadia for years to come!!!
Just call me a new Timbers fan as of recent events.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Why are so many Sounders fans trolling Dynamo Theory?
Are there a lot of French Canadians in Washington that I just don’t know about?
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by William Conwell on Nov 24, 2011 1:00 AM PST up reply actions
It's a good question
I think it’s more Seattle feels they have some kind of beef with Houston. Guess they’re just butt hurt because as soon as the Timbers came into existence, we all happily rooted for them. Also, question, how did Chabala fair this season with ya’ll? I know he had a few moments. I’ve always been a huge fan of his. Hard working guy. Puts in a LOT of work.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
In my estimation...
You got Chabala right on the money. He was very hard working and we love him for it. He does not always do the right thing, and he makes his fair share of mistakes, but you cannot ignore the fact that since he and Palmer took over as our fullbacks the number of goals scored against the Timbers each game went down appreciably (although Captain Jack shifting to a more defensive role in midfield helped a lot too).
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by William Conwell on Nov 24, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
He also fits in with Portland culture
Loves the crowd here too.
I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.
by yepyou'reright on Nov 24, 2011 10:13 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah...thats exactly it. we are so concerned with everybody else because we are so self conscious. ugh.
FYI, the whole league is laughing that the gamble and threat didn’t work out. I don’t like that it happened, I’m a huge fan of Ching and I wanted him to go out big in his last season. But Kinnear and the rest of the FO screwed this one up. Now Marsch holds all the cards and is banking on a trade. Ching doesn’t want to retire early, come on guys.
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 24, 2011 12:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know what to make of the Ching pick
I can understand why Houston’s disappointed, but I don’t see how they can call foul.
However, the Ching selection itself doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. It seems like there were players that would have more value to them than the rights to Ching would. Both on the field where Ching is getting old and feeble, or off, in terms of trade value.
With no disrespect to Mr. Perry or the gang over at SoH whose discussion I enjoy, there seem to be more irritating Sounders fans on the web than cats.
volatilelyle.com
by almost awesome on Nov 24, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Im on the same page as you mostly
Kinnear admitted it was a gamble and it didn’t pay off. Fully agree they can’t be crying foul. This is the sports world. This isn’t a gentleman’s situation, you draft to get yourself in the best position. To me, it makes sense because I think Marsch knows Ching doesn’t want to retire. He wants to keep playing especially with the new stadium. His bet is that Ching won’t retire, and he will be able to get some allocation dollars, draft picks, a trade, something for him. Whether or not it works out in the end and gets something as good as he could’ve selected remains to be seen…
And yes there are some annoying sounder fans…but what I’ve seen is that it’s similar to everybody other decently supported team. I don’t think I have my blinders on either…i get just as pissed when I see an annoying sounders fan mouthing off, probably even more because it sets a stereotype that gets used against me. I do enjoy the discussions here as well though! You guys are alright.
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 24, 2011 4:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
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