Re-Entry Draft Stage 2: LA Galaxy Dominates
by Geoff Gibson on Dec 12, 2011 11:34 AM PST
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PrintSo Stage 2 of the Re-Entry Draft has just concluded. It was a bit more lively than Stage 1 but still not hugely impactful. Most teams passed outright with the Los Angeles Galaxy taking a starring role by adding four players and picking up two of their own players again.
Unsurprisingly the Portland Timbers passed on Stage 2 and also passed on selecting their own players once again. To date the Timbers have not added a single player this off-season which is fairly surprising given that most other teams have made moves. One thing that's for sure is it will certainly be an interesting January. The Timbers have 8 roster spots available and we have to assume at least 5 of those will be filled.
I was disappointed that neither Ryan Pore or Peter Lowry were able to find homes via the draft. The latter of which especially I thought would be heading somewhere. No telling where they'll end up now.
Check out the full list of picks after the jump.
- Seattle Sounders - Marc Burch, D
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New England Revolution - Nata Jaqua, F
- Chicago Fire - Kheli Dube, F
- Colorado Rapids - Baggio Husidic, M
- Los Angeles Galaxy - Andrew Boyens, D
- New England Revolution - Clyde Simms, M
- Colorado Rapids - Hunter Freeman, D
- Los Angeles Galaxy - Chris Leitch, D
- Los Angeles Galaxy - Pat Noonan, F
- Los Angeles Galaxy - Jon Conway, GK
The LA Galaxy also held onto DaSan Robinson and Frankie Hejduk.
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Interesting
The Galaxy made 4 selections…. Looks like they want to get those cheap veterans that allow them to keep getting DP’s.
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Why are you surprised by Lowry?
There have been many comments made about Peter Lowry. Stuff like, “I’m surprised the Timbers let him go” or “He deserves to play somewhere”. Why is this?
You can’t say it’s because of his play, because he hasn’t played much at all the last two seasons. In Chicago he was a bench player who complained about playing time. He was left unprotected. He comes to Portland and barely plays, then is left unprotected and later let go. When he did play – again, not often even when healthy – he failed to impress and have much impact on the game. He’s not fast or particularly skilled on the ball and early in the season there were gaping holes in the midfield when he did play.
So, again, why they sentimental Lowry comments? It can’t really be his play. He barely did anything for the Timbers except be a good tweeter. Is social media why people liked him? You’ve got to do more than just “like Portland” or tweet to have a spot on the team.
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 12:20 PM PST reply actions
Yep
Nothing really to add except to agree with you. It does seem strange to me how some guys get eulogized for doing nothing.
Goldie at least scored a goal in a league match
and suffered a bad injury while playing in a league match. But a lot of people couldn’t wait to show him the door. Pore did way more for the club overall than Lowry ever did or ever will, but few people eulogized him like some did Lowry.
I doubt Lowry would’ve even cracked the 09/10 USL Timbers starting XI. Cool tweets do not equal a spot in the team.
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Two big reasons I like Peter Lowry:
1. Captaincy of a reserve side that did not lose a game with him at the helm
2. He scored some quality goals and assists in friendlies and for the reserves
I’m not saying he’s fantastic, otherwise he would have started more than a couple of games, but just because he didn’t shine with the Timbers doesn’t negate the fact that he’s got skills. Moffatt didn’t get a chance to prove himself for the Timbers either, and he’s is now considered one of the top holding midfielders in the league. Lowry might just be a better fit somewhere else.
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by Andrew Wheeler on Dec 12, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Based on what?
You can make the reserve team argument if he were someone like Freddy Braun. But at this point for Lowry more is expected from him. Hard to really compare him to Moffat. If teams thought he was a hidden gem like Moffat, someone would’ve traded for him or picked him up in re-entry by now. And we’ll see where Moffat is this time next year or two years from
now, not sold on him yet. Lowry could still be a rank and file squad player somewhere I suppose, but if he really wants regular playing time he should consider D2 or 3.
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 1:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Based on watching him in reserve matches
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by Andrew Wheeler on Dec 12, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
although Moffat scored that nasty long goal on us
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"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Who said surprised?
I was disappointed not surprised.
It’s true he never really fit in with the team here in Portland, but he’s a quality midfielder who I fully believe will fit in somewhere in MLS.
Mostly though I just feel bad when MLS players can’t find a home. I’m just empathetic like that.
Oh and Lowry is still fairly young at 26. To cunt him out now would be folly. Look at Jewsbury… where was he for the last 8 years? Toiling away at Kansas City who didn’t realize the player they had. Just because Lowry couldn’t make it here doesn’t mean he can’t make it anywhere.
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by Geoff Gibson on Dec 12, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Count*
… bad typo to make. Sorry.
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by Geoff Gibson on Dec 12, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Happens to everyone
Good points
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
I did the same thing in an allstaff email at work a few years back
For me I wrote, “we keep counting the results” or something like that except I dropped the o in counting accidentally.
It was the first week of our office having a new ceo as well.
My error was pointed out to me with an email response that went something like this…
“hmmm, I did not realize that word was a verb”
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
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And that is why sbnation needs an edit button
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
Indeed...
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by Geoff Gibson on Dec 12, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Why disappointed?
Look, Lowry seems like a good guy. And no, I don’t like to see anyone involuntarily unemployed. But in my opinion you should be happy because his roster spot will either go to a better player or a younger player with more potential. That is good for those players and the team, yes? And again, I see few people feeling sorry for the other guys who were let go this year.
Okay, I’ve said all I’m going to say on this one.
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
It's possible to feel more than one emotion at once.
I think some are experiencing a Lowry emotional cocktail.
I’d like to meet some of your ex-girlfriends. smilemoticon.
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by almost awesome on Dec 12, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Ha!
My ex-girlfriends would probably be like, “Oh yeah, uh, hmmm… well… okay… he was, uh… I haven’t heard from him in a long time.”
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 5:13 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm confused
How does
I was disappointed that neither Ryan Pore or Peter Lowry were able to find homes via the draft.equate to Peter Lowry should be a timber because I like the twitterz?
I liked Lowry for the job he did with the reserves, and thought he seemed like a good guy. I therefore hope he finds a place in MLS, like I do with many players who might not be super talented, but are easy to root for. Are you rooting against him? If not, what do you care? A lot of people hope Ryan Pore can find a spot in MLS, given all he did for the Timbers in USL. Is Ryan Pore an MLS caliber player? The consensus is no, but I don’t think anyone wants him to give up, retire, and spend the rest of his life selling cars. What do you care if people root for someone who probably can’t cut it?
Relax.
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
Because Lowry is being overrated and you can't based it on his play
Because he didn’t play. Why not eulogize Lopez or Thompson? Oh yeah, they didn’t come up with “Horstache”. It’s fun watching people invent reasons for why they think he’s a quality player. And why shouldn’t he be criticized?
Why do I care? Because I care about the integrity of the league and the integrity of the club. Portland is not a place for mediocre players to “resurrect their careers” or for Twitterz to tour PDX. We got lucky with Jack in an expansion year. If the team is making those kinds of trades two or three years from now something is wrong.
BTW, I am relaxed. And no, I really don’t care if you feel sorry for him personally or not. If you want to give Peter Lowry encouragement and a honorable mention ribbon for trying, go ahead. I just think he was overrated all year for no good reason.
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
No one said it was
The main gist has been everyone wishing he would earn a place here, and still hoping he might develop for somebody else. It was an attitude of “thanks for your contributions, and good luck”.
The timbers weren’t a good, talented team last year. If that was all that mattered, we would be rooting for the galaxy or sounders. It’s fun to “eulogize” the players on your team. Captain jack should be traded for whatever he can fetch. It’s the smart business move, because he is a replacement level player in a position of strength. That doesn’t mean he can’t be a fan’s favorite player.
And excuse me, I’m not sure how I mistook you for someone tightly wound ;). It’s not that you’re wrong, it’s that you’re arguing somethingnobody here is arguing. The original post had a throwaway line about the uncertain futures of some former timbers. You’re argument really isn’t with people here, anyway. Or if it is, the discussion occurred weeks ago when these guys weren’t protected.
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
by No Pity on Dec 12, 2011 2:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He played well in reserve matches
and he played well in the international friendlies and scored against West Brom. Thompson didn’t play at all, and Lopez didn’t play as well.
I base my opinion of Lowry on the quality of his play.
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by Andrew Wheeler on Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
/\/\/\/ this is why the internet sucks
People who have no reasonable idea of context screw up threads..
by portlandpadre on Dec 12, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell are you?
You know Padre, the only time you make a comment here is to lecture everybody about “proper commenting” or to demand that a post be taken down because you object to Kasey Keller being called geriatric. Either make a comment of substance more often and be conversational, or just don’t say anything.
“No reasonable idea of context”. How is questioning the butthurt some people had for Lowry’s dismissal “out of context” when Geoff expressed his disappointment in the post?
“Screw up threads”? In case you didn’t notice this was the thread. And yeah, I got the ball rolling. People could’ve ignored it, but they didn’t. That was the thread. Don’t like it? Fine. Ignore it or start your own.
I saw one of your tweets lamenting the state of the Internet, “Oh… woe is me… would people really speak to each other this way if it wasn’t for the Internet?!?” Yet here you are, saying something on the Internet that you probably wouldn’t have the guts to say to my face if we actually met.
That said, let me make this reasonably clear for you so it can be understood in the proper context… F&%k off kook.
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by yepyou'reright on Dec 12, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting move by Seattle. Was it necessary?
Freeman slipped to the second round. Albright didn’t get picked at all.
Obviously it wasn’t much of an asset they gave up, especially at their point in development.
Would be funny if Vancouver got something good with that pick, just for rivalry lore. Longshot for sure, though.
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