Timbers Tid Bits: Re-Entry Draft Stage 1 Edition
by Geoff Gibson on Dec 5, 2011 9:46 AM PST
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PrintToday marks the first stage of the MLS Re-Entry Draft, the draft selection where players can be transferred to other teams if their option is declined by their original team. I'm expecting this first stage to be fairly uneventful. Montreal might pick up a player or two, but otherwise I'm expecting most teams to pass as they did last year. Stage 2 will hppen on the 12th. That will probably be a bit more lively as it gives the players and teams a chance to renegotiate contracts before signing. We'll see if Portland picks anybody up.
The 2011 Re-Entry Draft is happening today. We'll update when the picks are made.
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I'm confused
@MLS_Insider tweeted an hour ago: “Re-Entry Draft concludes with only 3 players taken: D. Borman, C. Mendes an A. Alvarez. That’s 1 more than I thought would be taken.”
@TimbersFC: “Portland does not select any players in Stage 1 of MLS Re-Entry Draft. Stage 2 is Dec. 12. Draft details: bit.ly/utxfn2 #RCTID”
So it’s already over?
When I write, I write for the Timbers. Contributing Editor of Stumptown Footy
I think Part 1 is much faster than part 2
The teams just put the names of players they want in, and the league assigns them. It probably doesn’t make much sense for MLS to publicize or broadcast the arcane minutia of its roster rules, for sanity’s sake. Part 2 will probably be more extensive, as the teams and players negotiate, though someone can correct me if I’m way off.
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
You are right about the renegotiation during Stage 2
Not sure myself about the length of that process.
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
If I remember right
The teams draft, then have a window to negotiate with the player. If they can’t reach a deal, they have right of first refusal in MLS.
Seems to put most of the leverage in the hands of the team, but that is pretty standard in MLS
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
Just went back and read the SF recap of last year's Stage 2
It took all of 16 minutes — indeed, a little longer than Stage 1.
When I write, I write for the Timbers. Contributing Editor of Stumptown Footy
by Andrew Wheeler on Dec 5, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Oddly enough
The Movil thing seems to make sense. GW was scouting a player from that team, and Paulson only denied that the DP was a Chico player. Obviously this stuff could just as easily not happen, but it’s intriguing, and given the success with Chara, I’m curious to see what Wilkinson saw in him.
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
Not understanding the Revs Joseph signing
I understand why they want him back. I just don’t get the DP part of it. Good for him though.
I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.
by yepyou'reright on Dec 5, 2011 3:26 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Cap space relief?
$500k guaranteed last year, all $500k against the cap, now only $335k is. Maybe?
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
Yeah, probably
It seems like one if those faux FO moves that makes it look like they’re doing something but in reality they really didn’t. Just not sure about spending one of three DP slots on a 33 year-old MLS vet, who happens to be a nice player, but not a huge difference maker for them.
I love Portland because everyone here takes things so seriously, sort of.
by yepyou'reright on Dec 5, 2011 5:48 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Shalrie Joseph is the face of the Revs.
Particularly now that almost every player they had when they were good (2002-2007) are gone. There have been rumors of him leaving the league for a last big payday in Europe for a while, including several attempts at transfers that the Revolution blocked, so it is not a big surprise that they brought him back as a DP. He likely got a little pay bump, which he deserves, and will finish out his career with New England, which the New England fans deserve.
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by William Conwell on Dec 6, 2011 1:30 AM PST up reply actions
It's hard to believe that Santino Quaranta has retired
He’s an 11 year vet, and yet he’s still only 27. One of the interesting things about United is that they three times set the record for youngest player in league history. First Quaranta, then Bobby Convey, and finally Freddy Adu. And that they had the oldest player in league history when Pat Onstad suited up for a few games this year.
Anyway, best of luck to Tino with his new life. He’s a world class guy, and can really help others to either make their way into professional soccer or beat their addictions. Not many can do both, as he did.
Very intrigued by Nguyen
I really don’t know much about him, but I think it would be great to have some Asian (-American) influence on the Timbers again. There is a good-sized Vietnamese community in Portland, too.
I taught English in Vietnam for a few years.
Anyone know how the weighted lottery system works? Or more about Nguyen?
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I traveled all over the country
but I lived in Saigon.
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by almost awesome on Dec 6, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Weighted lottery is like NBAs draft lottery.
Each club has a chance at getting to select first. The highest probability should go to Montreal, then Vancouver, then NE, etc.
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Do they draw all 20 and have negotiation rights proceed down the list?
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by almost awesome on Dec 6, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think all 20.
And Lee will be taking a pay cut from the above 1,680,800,000.00 Vietnamese Dong that he earned. Many currency seems inflated there.
Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.
Nope.
Whoever gets him will have the rights to his contract in MLS for the next two years. If he cannot reach an agreement on a contract with that team, other teams can then trade for his rights.
Alternatively, he may have already established a contract with MLS (like when Benny Feilhaber entered the league last year) which will play into whether teams opt out of the lottery or not.
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by William Conwell on Dec 6, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Then can teams withdraw from the draft?
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by almost awesome on Dec 6, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah.
In a given year, once your team has won a lottery you cannot take part again until every team has won a lottery. So if a team does not really want a player they can opt out in case someone else that they want more joins the league later on.
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by William Conwell on Dec 6, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
He's good
I’ve been intrigued by him for years. Fringe national team player who never really panned out as well as some had hoped. My understanding is that he has already signed a contract with the MLS, so there will be no negotiation with whomever wins the lottery.
Personally I think he would be a great fit for the Timbers. We need top quality wing play and Nguyen could provide that. He is young, and to the best of my knowledge, does not have a ton of injury history. I must admit I am a little worried about the potential for stagnation in the Vietnamese league, but it can’t be too much worse than the MLS. I think he’d be a great pickup and I hope the Timbers put their name in the hat.
Good points
And to be fair, the stats suggest he dominated the Vietnamese league, which he should have. He seems pretty similar to Zizzo, especially in terms of their situation with the MNT. It’s all luck as to whether the Timbers get him, but I definitely wouldn’t mind.
Oklahoma State will beat LSU in the National Title game by more than 7 points.
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