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Portland’s rise in prominence has been a steady climb, rather than the sharp spike achieved by Seattle. The Timbers rest solidly on the foundation of an organically spawned fan culture that sees itself as anti-Sounders, anti-corporate and more "authentic" than that of their rivals. The club's management has centered its marketing efforts around the fans themselves, promoting a culture that predates MLS. The Sounders didn’t have that same luxury, but excelled in creating a wave of interest and passion impressive by any standard in any sport.

From USsoccerplayers.com.

This is a really good compare/contract article between how our club was built up and how Seattle's was. Good read for those interested.

about 1 year ago Stumptown-lg_tiny Geoff Gibson 17 comments 1 recs  | 

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Funny how some of the Sounders fans legitimize his assertions in the comments.

One tries to say it was because the games were at Memorial Stadium. Another because D2 soccer was poor. False arguments about because of highest per capita players [if that was true, why the poor USL attendance at Qwest?]. Author doesn’t attempt to define authentic, but recognizes there were two approaches and one certainly is observed to have grown in popularity from the fans, not the owner and FO.

The author does fine in covering both approaches to “promotion.” Very evenhanded.

In 2009, I was impressed with the Sounders recognizing just what they had accomplished. It was evidence soccer was doing well in North America. Portland, doesn’t need to replicate the same because interest is already here.

Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.

by Kejsare on Feb 21, 2011 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

One of my biggest fears when Portland was announced as an MLS city

is that it would coast on its laurels, as far as growing interest and excitement in the team goes – that they would lean on the whole “Soccer City USA” thing and its reputation (which, while well deserved, isn’t enough to guarantee instant MLS success) and not take that excellent foundation and push it to the next level as far as building interest, excitement, and curiosity.

I watched what Seattle did in the runup to their MLS debut, and they did pretty much everything right, and when Portland was officially announced I had a horrible fear that the Timbers org would not try to learn from the Seattle experience and would instead say “we’re Portland and that’s all we need”.

I am quite happy that I was wrong – that Portland has really learned from not just Seattle but from other successful teams in other sports how to connect with a fambase. The way the Timbers have gone about their business this past year has been great – they, like Seattle, have done pretty much everything right for their particular market.

Mostly, I’m tired of talking about the games and ready to start watching them.

by pdb on Feb 21, 2011 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

Tip your hat

to Mike Golub. He is quickly earning a reputation around the league as being a guy who “gets it” on a Peter Wiltian level.

by Daaaaave on Feb 21, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is an excellent read

I never realized the Flounders had a poor fan showing for the years leading up to the MLS squad. Not that I’m surprised… with the NBA (now gone), NFL and MLB all there to show them up, well, it’s obvious that their squad was overlooked.

Whereas here in Portland, yeah the Blazers are king, but the Timbers still had a great following and it’s only getting more and more powerful as the first MLS season approaches. I’m looking forward to March 19th!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Feb 21, 2011 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

I grew up in Seattle and have been to many Sounders games

and for the years they played in Memorial Stadium, I think I only paid for a ticket once – every other time I went to games there, there were people standing in front of the stadium giving their tickets away. I think one season I went to about 13 games for free.

Needless to say, I was (pleasantly) shocked when I went to my first Timbers game after moving to Portland.

by pdb on Feb 21, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you should post a comment like that on the article

just to shut up the defensive Flounders fans.

My favorite post on there:
We were just waiting for them to get into the MLS…. Like they knew for years and years that was gonna happen. HAH!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

That

Was the whole idea behind designing Qwest Field the way they did, to lure an MLS team. It was supposed to happen years earlier, not that we’re complaining. Thats one thing Portland will always do better than Seattle; Support D-2 teams.

by Agent_J on Feb 26, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Both Teams have got very good fan support,

Now they have to Prove it on the Pitch. I’m to the opinion that I really don’t care who’s fan base is more ‘authentic’, that does not win games. Maybe a smug feeling of satisfaction on certain victorys, but that’s about it.

The fact that both teams have great support, and along with Vancouver, the NW will be a great foundation for the MLS to grow on for hopefully years to come. This league needs more fans, and more fans traveling to games.

As much as we give lip service to the Flounders and Whiteheads? (whats the slam for Whitecaps?) we need them, and we need them to be good franchises. And they need us to put out good teams as well.

I hope, as the MLS ages, the NW is looked at kinda like the NFC North, with history and tradition. Hopefuly, the Cascadia Cup will mean something, and not become a circus for MLS.

by HikinGDub on Feb 21, 2011 1:21 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Whitecraps.

All should be aware how much collaboration does go on within these organizations. Seattle has given a few tips to their neighbors about how to get ready for MLS play and structure. The shared history is incredibly valuable to building life-long fans, and adding more.

Portland’s fans are not trying to be more authentic than Seattle, more like trying to differentiate how unlike in nature and development they are.

Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.

by Kejsare on Feb 21, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

that's not entirely fair,

Some of them didn’t want to be born in Renton, or Bothell, that just happens…And don’t think I don’t feel for the poor, poor people of Fife….

Thanks for the Whitecraps name, I should have figured that one out.

by HikinGDub on Feb 21, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

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