Portland Timbers Training Quotes and Notes: Taking Precautions Edition
The Timbers practice today was an uneventful one on the field but saw several developments on the sidelines. Once again Jose Adolfo Valencia was missing from practice which was yet again explained as being further fitness testing. John Spencer went on to say that as soon as he was done testing we would see him back on the field. Spencer did refuse to say if there was anything wrong with Valencia.
Brent Richards also sat out of practice today although he was present at the field. A slight "tweak" to his quad held him out of full training as the Timbers staff decided not to take any chances. Other than Richards there were not changes in personnel from yesterday.
Spencer also took a moment to clarify a quote from Eddie Johnson about Spencer giving him a hard time for wearing protective headgear at the end of last season. Coach Spencer made it clear that he takes concussions very seriously and that any hard time he gave Eddie was to lift his spirits.
On the field the Timbers focused today on keeping possession, playing a series of games of keep away that gradually increased in size, culminating in games of half field 8v8 keep away. In the middle of practice the team broke into groups and played 8v3 keep away with one of the eight playing in the center. During this drill, whenever a team had Freddie Braun in the middle they had very little trouble keeping possession against the three defenders. Freddie looks stronger than last season and was very successful in holding off defenders and getting a clean pass away under pressure.
More training notes and quotes from John Spencer after the jump.
During the 8v8 drills players had less of a chance to stand out than yesterday as there was no shooting on goal to be done. However, like yesterday, Jorge Perlaza impressed with his skill on the ball and sudden bursts of speed to get free of his marker. He looks to be in good shape and not struggling as he was by the end of last season while playing with an injury.
After practice Mike Chabala, Chris Taylor, and Brendan King stuck around and crossed balls in to Bright Dike while Eric Alexander and Steve Purdy worked on their passing. Dike continues to look like he could have a breakout year, putting several nice headers and shots on frame. Doug Herrick filled in after practice in the goal and, while not making any miraculous stops against Dike, did save most of what was savable. King had some nice crosses from the right, particularly considering he is primarily a left wing.
Quotes
John Spencer
On Brent Richards staying on the sidelines during practice
The truth of it is, there's quite a lot of work. We try to tend, a little bit, to err on the side of caution rather than just pushing them through it so we just need to make sure that he is all right. You know it is a different standard, coming from playing at the college level to the demand of the professional game. He just tweaked his quad a little bit so [we will] err on the side of caution.
He's pumped up for this opportunity. He comes from the area. He's grown up through Eastside and supported the Timbers through division two. [There is] a lot of anxiety and a lot of pressure on the young guys coming in so it is important that you try to take it easy with them. Going from training two or three months a year and playing two or three months a year to the demands that we have here on a daily basis, and probably most clubs in Major League Soccer [have], is a hell of a jump. So it is important that, why would we want push him and have him tear a quad and be out for six weeks? That does nobody any favors, so it is important that we look after him properly.
On his impressions of Brent
I've seen him playing with our PDL team and I've seen hime playing in college. He's a super young talent so the main aim is to keep him here for a long time and make it as enjoyable experience and help him have the best career as possible.
On Eddie Johnson's concussions last season
We have been told that if you rest the correct amount of time and let the concussion heal, there is no higher risk to get another one. I wouldn't care less if a doctor gave me a one hundred percent clearance [if ]Eddie said to me he didn't feel good. If it was the MLS cup final and Eddie scored twenty five goals that year, Eddie wouldn't play. It doesn't matter how important the game is, Eddie, and his future with his family, is more important to me.
He has told me he is fine, he has passed all the tests. We have got tremendous doctors here who have done all the tests that are required and he says that he is fine. We take no chances with any of our players with any injuries. I'm over-careful, like with Brent, I'm over-careful when it comes to anything. If a guy is not one hundred percent fit and he is hesitating in training or in games, I shut them down.
On camp so far
It's great. If you can't enjoy this part of the job, coming out here, standing in this magnificent arena, and playing a game of football, getting yourself fit and working out there is something wrong with your head. We've got a great bunch of guys, good professionals. As I say, American players, they're a credit to the game because they do work their socks off in the off season and come back in tremendous condition spot makes your job easier as a coach.
On his second preseason with the Timbers
Do you know Merritt Paulson? Nothing's ever easy, man. Anything that is worth having doesn't come easy. We have got high standards here, our fans are tremendous, we've got great support behind us.
We keep that door open (the locker room entrance). I sit in there pre-game and the coaching staff do the warm-up and it just fills you with passion. They drive me on, the fans. I've spoken of it before. There is pressure all the time. It doesn't get any easier. Success is not easy to achieve and we know that this year is going to be another big test for us and we are looking forward to it.
On today's practice
It is just trying to mix it up. The guys are in decent shape, you know, but I am trying to emphasize that if we do our running in the small sided games and the possession games then we don't need to do as much just running exercises. I think you can do a lot of exercises where you are disguising the running a little bit and that is what we wanted to do today just to keep them fresh because it is a long preseason. Vitas I say, the guys are in tremendous shape.
On Jose Adolfo Valencia's status
He's going thorough medicals. When you invest that much money in players it is important you cross all the t's and dot the i's and look at every bone in his body. For us we are just making sure that everything is one hundred percent. As soon as he has completed his medicals, he will be back on the field.
On if there is anything wrong with Valencia
Even if there was, [John Strong], I don't think I would be telling you.
I also had a chance to talk with Rodney Wallace and Brendan King but transcription takes forever and I have to head to class. Expect those quotes as soon as possible.
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not buying the testing talk
something is wrong. he did a full day of testing on the 21st. thinking the blood tests probably showed something, but thats a shot on the dark.
by zaggy on Jan 26, 2012 2:34 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Exactly what I was thinking
He seems to be a circulatory thing as they are running tests. He may have a parasite/blood condition…
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well and 3 days make sense for them to catch something as the blood tests would probably be back them. really hoping its not luekemia or something really really serious.
by zaggy on Jan 26, 2012 3:19 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
*be back by then.
something like a ligament should have showed up that day.
by zaggy on Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
My Thoughts exactly
Going to be a blood thing not a muscular/skeletal thing. Especially after tests. I doubt it is leukemia but it could be.
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Didn't think it'd be THAT bad
I thought maybe a torn ACL or something but didn’t think cancer or leukemia….however if it were that I don’t think that’s what MP would tweet cause he metioned ‘sports’ and sports pales in comparison to life and that’s what leukemia or cancer is.
I hope it turns out to have been just a bad sandwich
so we can all look back at this leukemia business and laugh.
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by Andrew Wheeler on Jan 26, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I motion that we talk about things we know
That's what she said.
by yepyou'reright on Jan 26, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
ACL just doesn't make sense to me
unless he fell or something in his hotel. if its really something that would have taken a few days for a test to get back, yet still allow him to practice, its probably blood related, or at least diagnoised via blood work. lamarcus’ enlarged heart condition is also a possibility off the top of my head, but unless there is alot of ambiguity over the tests, its pretty bad given they are covering for 2 days now. he hasn’t been on twitter either, which again seems extra odd and I think points to something substantial.
by zaggy on Jan 26, 2012 4:35 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Jebus.
Jumping to leukemia? I liked the parasites much better.
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by almost awesome on Jan 26, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
If it was that bad
It would be poor form for Merrit to say ‘sports’ can be a cruel bitch, and not ‘life’ or ‘some diety’ can be a cruel bitch.
Something to be worried about. But lets not speculate all the way into cancer.
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by almost awesome on Jan 26, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Totally worst case
But fits with total segregation. No sightings around team. No twitter. No comment. If it was just a parasite, why not say “we seen some abnormal blood work that Valencia is getting some treatment for, he’ll be back shortly”. Fitness or medical tests make no sense given he trained 2 days and had an entire day of testing on the 21st.
I’m not even factoring MP’s tweet into here…maybe it is, maybe it isn’t related, but based on this FO’s media response so far, something BIG is wrong that they won’t say anything (unless they are clueless). Its pretty obvious by now that no one should be buying their “testing” excuses they trotted out again today. Even GCA put something up on Olive today.
I don’t want to fan the flames, but seriously, even Nagbe’s sports hernia surgery was announced quickly once diagnosed. Either Valencia needs to see a specialist until they can determine his treatment/return timeline, or they are legitimately having to test more to figure out whats wrong, but I have a hard time believing it would take more than 2 days to figure out whats wrong with what appears to be very healthy individual. My guess is they are consulting other options or letting him take some time to make some decisions, but what other stuff fits? Cancer, heart condition, something degenerative, etc, unfortunately. I want it to be something else badly though.
Maybe they are clueless right now
Training has started, transfer window is closing… I’m guessing they’re a little busy. And GCA and OLive are not a validation of anything. Separating him from the team could be for a lot of reasons. He could have the flu, for instance. Even if you’re proven right, jumping to conclusions before we know facts doesn’t do any good.
I’m going to take Coach Spencer at his word on this.
That's what she said.
by yepyou'reright on Jan 26, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
You should watch some House or something
Diagnosis can be a tricky business.
And I’m not even saying anything is wrong. For all we know the “testing” is cover for CIA business. (Hell, if we can say leukemia, we can assert he’s got spy issues, right?)
I hope it's nothing serious
But even if it turns out to be serious, throwing words leukemia around the Internet rumor mill is irresponsible. Until we hear facts from the team people shouldn’t be speculating like this.
That's what she said.
by yepyou'reright on Jan 26, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think
Its FAR more irresponsible for the team not to release real information, even if they aren’t 100% specific. They don’t need to explain everything that’s going on, but a player whose been in Portland for more than a week, who made 2 practices, doesn’t go from autograph sessions after practice to being away from the team for no reason for 2 straight days with the FO giving the most perfunctory of excuses.
Its my read on situation that something major, of that nature, is going on here, or we would at least see him tweeting. Right now there is NOTHING solid (haven’t listened to TT last night…downloading now), but still, they know this is circling now, they could put it to bed with one statement and they aren’t. Why wouldn’t you want people focusing on all the new additions and the return of guys like Zizzo (who ran and dribbled yesterday) than of missing a HUGE piece of the team (if the #9 signing falls apart). That’s either incompetence that needs to be called out, or its a sign that something truly terrible is occurring behind the scenes.
And just like that
Valencia breaks his twitter silence, though its completely unrelated. My problem is, and has been with this ENTIRE situation, is it highlights how short-sighted and myopic the team can be towards releasing information. The Timbers claim they are a world class organization, and I love my club, but the only legitimate information that ever leaks out is by our owner on Twitter….that needs to change and the team needs to better understand the tuned in fanbase requires more information than BS excuses or fluff pieces (obviously, this is something thats been brewing for me). I know they are a better than other MLS franchises, but can you imagine the Blazers pulling this? No way they could let it get to 2 days without some kind of legitimate information leaking out.
Totally agree
MLS is so vague on so many things. You’d think a growing league that wants to catch on would try and be totally transparent and try to make things open and simplified so they could bring more people in. Instead they have the most convoluted rules and are very closed off from both the media and the general public/fans.
I think part of this is the fact that there just isn’t much media surrounding MLS. There’d be 20 writers just locally banging down the doors at the Rose Garden trying to find out everything they could but with MLS there just isn’t that demand
Valencia
Hes probably found out how good our beer is…. and spencer probably told him to raise his tolerence since they will be doing shots of jamesons at half time in the locker rooms…
RCTID
by Mammothpdx on Jan 26, 2012 7:26 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
These comments got a little intense.
Let’s reel it in a little bit people. No one is dying that we know of.
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by William Conwell on Jan 26, 2012 7:29 PM PST reply actions
If he's at training tomorrow
I’m gonna pull a kindergarten cop. How does one say, “It’s not a tumah” in Spanish?
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by Andrew Wheeler on Jan 26, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My guess
I think it could be type 1 diabetes. It would be consistent with his tiredness after practice and the apparent extensive blood testing. My son has this disease. It was diagnosed when he was in high school and was running on the xcountry team. Valencia is at the upper age range when this disease is normally contracted. If this is it, then it would be career-threatening but not life-threatening. He might be able to play with this condition but it would be difficult at the prolevel. Hope it is something more minor and treatable to the point of full recovery.
There are plenty of athletes with type 1
Cutler, Brandon Morrow, Adam Morrison.
Soccer, with the lack of breaks to check blood sugar and make adjustments, would be more of a challenge. A quick search doesn’t turn up many pro soccer players, and no current ones. But Gary Mabutt, Par Zetterberg and Danny McGrain apparently were all D1.
I was diagnosed at 26, which is rather old to be dxed with type 1.
(Now a bunch of hypothetical stuff)
I don’t think a D1 dx would be career threatening. They could put a small, slim continuous blood glucose monitor on his arm and see where his blood sugars are at all times, then pull him aside for a little bump if it’s dropping too far or too fast. It would however, probably take several months to get all the carb/insulin/exercise dials tuned to have him prepared for 90 minutes of football, or even just 45. As a pro athlete he would have access to a lot more support than most people suffering the disease.
As a diabetic myself, if this were the case, I would hope the Timbers wouldn’t cut him, which they would probably have license to do.
BTW, once science can get those continuous bg monitors communicating with an insulin pump, we’ll have an artificial pancreas, which isn’t a cure, but would make my life so much better (Damn I miss snacking). Exciting stuff, and it’s not that far away. The cost is going to be prohibitive, I imagine. I still don’t have a pump or a continuous monitor for financial reasons.
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by almost awesome on Jan 26, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
oh and blazer legend chris dudley.
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by almost awesome on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Stop! Everyone just f#%king stop!
Stop with the armchair diagnosis. Maybe he just isn’t fit yet. After all, it was the first day of camp.
And again, why is it so hard for people to believe Spencer? If you invest that much in a young DP, you want to know as much about him as you can. Sports science is very advanced these days.
That's what she said.
by yepyou'reright on Jan 26, 2012 9:38 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, you're both right.
almost awesome, you’re right. Technology can do a lot these days to help D1s to live a near normal life (my son has a pump), but having all of that hardened to function and survive the rough and tumble of a pro soccer game is probably asking a bit much right now. Could happen, but I doubt it. yepyou’reright, you’re also right. We don’t know what the deal is yet. It could be something entirely different, but I’m afraid it’s probably more than just being out of shape. I thought my son was just out of shape too when he almost passed out after a 5k run. A couple of weeks later, he was in ICU. In any case , we’ll know in a few days. I’m sure the Timbers will take care of him no matter what the problem is. Let’s hope for the best.
ICU? Damn, that must have been terrifying for your family
I don’t think a soccer player would wear the pump in-game. Those continuous monitors look like little more than a nicotine patch, however, and I don’t think they’d limit anything.
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by almost awesome on Jan 27, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
He's got the kissing disease
Mono, from all the love he got at the jersey signing! Seriously though, no matter what I hope he’s fine. If not, I’m confident the organization will do whatever it can to get him there.
And take plenty of tissue paper so they can dry their eyes after the game.
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Now I’m worried. That said, I’m still not going to play armchair doctor.
That's what she said.
by yepyou'reright on Jan 27, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions

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