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Portland Timbers Training Quotes and Notes: Franck Songo'o Edition

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First week's training has finally concluded. It was a good week and I hope you guys enjoyed our coverage of it. We really tried to get to as many trainings as possible and, I believe, we only missed one so we were able to cover most bases. Heading into next week we'll try something similar, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to keep up the same pace.

In any case, today's training went really well for those there in attendance. Jack Jewsbury was still absent for the obvious reason of having a new born child added into the family. Big congratulations to him, once again. Jose Adolfo Valencia was absent as well, but that should come as no surprise. The FO is still just as evasive about his issues so we really don't have an update on that today. Two other notables missing was Brent Richards and Diego Chara. Richards stayed out due to his quad tweak from earlier this week. Chara, however, was left out due to some lower back soreness. My guess is that head coach John Spencer and the training staff really didn't want to agitate anything one week in. We did see him come out for a bit to watch and he looked fine from a distance.

Everybody else was really on the ball (pun!) today with their training regiment. Franck Songo'o, in particular, really impressed me, but more on that below.

8v8 Observations

As usual toward the latter half of the training session the team gathered for their 8v8 matches. This is always the most telling of any of the training systems because we actually get to see them play in realistic matches, albeit on a field half the size.

Star-divide

I was paying attention to two players mostly today: Franck Songo'o and Hanyer Mosquera as I wanted to see how each was fitting into the team. The results were mixed and a bit unexpected.

I'll start with Songo'o. He was great today, to put in succinctly. In fact, I'd argue that, based on today's performance, he could battle for a starting position spot on any given game day. During the 8v8 matches he had the kind of control and vision on the wings that we rarely saw last year. On more than a couple occasions he was the primary feeder to a goal for his team as he always seemed to find himself in great positions. Of course this probably shouldn't be much of a surprise considering he was trained under FC Barcelona's youth system. Position should come naturally.

He's also seemed to gel with the team much faster than most trialists do. If you didn't know any better you could walk out to the training field and easily confuse him for being a member of the squad already.

It's a bit early to say whether he's going to get signed not, but it's clear that everybody has been impressed with him this first week. Now it's just a matter of maintaining that level of quality...

Unfortunately, Hanyer Mosquera did not look as good as I was hoping. Granted there's a lot of nerves for him right now and he's still working his way into the system so I'd caution against judging him too harshly, but he did seem a little off beat today. Every time he got the ball he seemed to want to take one too many touches and his vision for where to put that ball wasn't quite where I'd want it to be for a starting center back. It will take time, however, to fully see where he lands. After all, Diego Chara had a similar problem slotting into the midfield for the first half of the season.

Quotes

John Spencer

On bringing on Cameron Knowles as an assistant coach

I just think that it's very, very important to try and keep with the history of the club. I think it's important that you have guys around who have played for the club whether it be involved with the academy, PDL, or reserves because they know what the city is about, what it's like to play here and play in front of fans that are full of passion and desire so for us we're going to try and keep that connection from the NASL days way back in the 70s with the new jersey and just bringing guys are part of the history of the club ... He [Knowles] was always one of them guys, like Tony McManis, that we'd have back here in a heart beat and the door was always open for him to come into practice and obviously we had a situation arise where we needed another assistant coach. I thought he was just tailor made to come in and help us out.

On the learning curve for Andrew Jean-Baptiste

Just the same as any other young player joining in from the college ranks. It's a big, big change. The pace of the game has changed. ... I don't think soccer is as cut out as the NBA when it comes to drafts. A first round guy doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna stick with the team. I think the NBA and [American] football are a little more cut and dry that way but soccer is a different game. Bright Dike went to Columbus a couple years ago as a first round pick, I think, and he ended up getting cut by Spring training. So there's no guarantees. We feel that he (Jean-Baptiste) has all the physical attributes and can play the professional game but it's down to how quick he learns.

On Darlington Nagbe playing as a striker

I've said to him on numerous occasions ... you only get into that position by getting goals. That's the name of the game. You can talk about potential all day long over any young player, but the thing the coaches look for is that yes you're young and the potential is there but you've got to produce. That's what keeps you on the team. He definitely has potential and he has the potential to produce week in, week out. So it's up to him to really take the reigns and say "you know I want to play as a striker." ... I'm looking for good things from him this year.

On Franck Songo'o fitting in with the team

I think he's done well. We brought him in, he's got a very good resume and he's played at some decent clubs. We're looking to add another quality player in that position. Everybody says we need strength and depth and we know that. But you can't just go and get anybody. The players you're bringing in have got to be better than the ones you've got here or ones that you can find in this country and if they're not then you can't sign them. What I've seen over the last 4 or 5 days has pleased us but you tend to see that with guys you bring on for trials for their first week and that's why you can't be too hasty to make a decision. We'll wait to get down to LA and give em games down there and if he performs the way he has in the last couple days in training then we'll sit down and see if we can get something organized with him and get something signed.

Eric Brunner

On fitness levels after the first week of training

It's good! A lot of us came back from the off season pretty fit and we've been fortunate enough that the coaches have been pleased with where our fitness levels are that we can get out and play. We know that when we are doing these kinds of games it's still fitness oriented and you're all pushing each other to work as hard as we can to get that max fitness.

On being the primary center back in 2012

It's always a goal to be the number one center back and be consistent and build off what happened last year.

(side note: loved his confidence when answering this questions)

On the addition of Hanyer Mosquera

He's only been here a week so there's probably some adjustment for him, but as far as I can tell he's fitting in and he's getting his roots settled in understanding how we play. I think it's going to take a little bit of time for him to just understand our playing style. You also have to factor in the language barrier that's probably tough for him, but he has a good attitude.

Mike Chabala

On fitness levels after the first week of training

Great! Yeah I took care of myself during the offseason so it was good start. I think just overall getting back on the ball, double days, and weights and stuff. It takes a little bit off your body, but I feel great. It's a good group. The last two days were pretty impressive. A lot of good football, high energy, intensity was up there.

On off season recreation and training

I traveled a little. Got to go to Hawaii, play some golf and relax. Traveled down to California to see my family. Went to Paris for the New Year. It was a good time. I had a good off season [training] plan in place though. Did my travels to give myself a break, but I had a good 6 week program to give myself the best chance to have a good season.

On adjusting to the team with a brand new season post-Houston

I've noticed a big difference just with the comaraderie with the guys. It's tough in any situation to go into a team especially the timing in which I did come last season. It means a lot when you go into the pre-season with a group of guys. The double days, the work everybody's on the same page. This is my seventh season and along the way I've picked up a few things. Not that I'm entitled to be able yell at somebody, but just to be able to lead by example. More importantly though just to be on the same page as the group and be able to have a full season together is pretty important.

On the defensive back line heading into 2012

Competitive! It's great. I think there is competition in every spot. I think that'll push our defense. I think it'll make us a better squad. Obviously starting with Troy Perkins and then going into the centerbacks and heading out wide. I think it's gonna be an exciting pre-season. Every game is gonna be important for the guys to show well and play well and make sure you're gonna secure your spot. Nobody is guaranteed anything. You gotta make sure you go out there and prove while you should be on the field.

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I'm pretty sure we went to every practice

Looking through the archives I see we’re six for six!

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by Andrew Wheeler on Jan 28, 2012 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks guys. We appreciate the coverage.

by botanyjames on Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hot damn!

I thought we missed Tuesday or something…

AAA coverage from SF!

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by Geoff Gibson on Jan 28, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Props to the SF team!

Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.

by Kejsare on Jan 28, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

With no help

From the Science teacher! Sorry about that guys, I was at HQ manning the twitter feeds and catching any news that came out.

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by Ryan Gates on Jan 28, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

yes.

thank you from all of us that cant, but would if we could be there.

by Homes In Catacombs on Jan 28, 2012 6:01 PM PST reply actions  

Geoff, thanks for your thorough yet temperate approach to writing. It’s quite refreshing. In so many parallel opinions, Songo’o would be about to single-handedly lead us to MLS cup and Mosquera would need to be immediately waived or traded. Well written.

by oddcontemplation on Jan 28, 2012 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

I try to maintain a certain neutrality...

Especially when it comes to judging a player negatively.

I will say though that Songo’o was seriously impressive. I really hope he can keep it up because he could be a great addition.

Plus he’s fairly young to at 24.

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by Geoff Gibson on Jan 28, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Reading that article actually gave me some hope, as Spencer implied that he’s confident they’ll get him back on the pitch before the trip to LA. Commenters on the article, on the other hand, are implying it could be drug-test related….Sheesh.

by haytrain on Jan 28, 2012 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

I just read the article and it really sounded optimistic.

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by Ryan Gates on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Even with mostly anonymous IDs

this is site is still attracts brilliant and thoughtful comments.

MLSsoccer.com has the unfortunate circumstance of teenagers.

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by Kejsare on Jan 29, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks...how did i just find out about SF two days ago?

thanks for the songo’o detail, that’s the kind of good analysis that will make me a regular. spencer’s comments are encouraging…too bad the other outlets only want to focus on the 1st round superdraft pick and the UP kid. look forward to seeing how songo’o does in his field time in l.a.

mosquera will have to learn quickly, as chara did – well like anyone that comes to mls from overseas does. unlike any other league in the world, over here CB’s don’t get time to collect the ball, look up, and make a pass…someone is going to be coming at you immediately with near reckless abandon.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Jan 28, 2012 10:25 PM PST reply actions  

Welcome aboard!

Not sure how you missed us all these months, but we’re glad to have another reader and commenter.

I’m hoping we can become the #1 MLS blog on SBNation by the end of the 2012 season. But that’s just a personal goal.

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by Geoff Gibson on Jan 28, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome, come for the articles

stay for the intelligent banter.

Jag kom, jag såg, erövrade jag.

by Kejsare on Jan 29, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

SF love

Honestly. I check the website every day, and no other timbers web site is as up to date as Stumptown Footy. For a Timbers army member who recently moved away from Portland…. This is one of the only and best ways for me to stay connected… Without you …. Ide be a seriously sad human being.

So thank you

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by Mammothpdx on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 PM PST reply actions  

We like to hear that

Well the part that you appreciate us, not the part about moving away from Stumptown and missing your PTFC.

With that said if you get to an away match near you post your recap in the fanshots.

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by Ryan Gates on Jan 28, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Like Geoff stated we want to be the best SBN Soccer blog by the end of this season.

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by Ryan Gates on Jan 28, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Valencia

So much speculation on him! And perhaps just as much disinformation. I wonder how sports clubs and HIPAA laws connect and diverge? What can and cannot be divulged about medical conditions of a franchise employees? Are franchises except?
I realize that this is probably outside of most analisyse done by a sports blog, but maybe someone can weigh in. I don’t want to restart the fiasco regarding what is professional. I’m just wondering if sports was carved out of the federal law.

by zippyflynn on Jan 29, 2012 1:34 AM PST reply actions  

You certainly can't find out the actual diagnosis unless they choose to release it

but then again I don’t know HIPAA that well.

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by Kejsare on Jan 29, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Jean-Baptiste

Is Spencer sending a not too subtle message to Baptiste that his spot on the squad isn’t guaranteed? How has he looked in practice?

by zippyflynn on Jan 29, 2012 1:53 AM PST reply actions  

maybe to the fans

i think JB knows he has his work cut out for him. but perhaps spencer is letting everyone know that nagbe is a special player and for the most part, your not going to find talent from college soccer. the draft was super hyped by mls this year (my ticket rep even called to ask if i had been paying attention to it) – i have no idea why – and i think he’s trying to let the general sports fans who may casually follow timbers along with the blazers, seahawks, etc. that they shouldn’t expect to see him on the field this year in any meaningful sense. i hate the mls draft…why can’t every college player just be a free agent and negotiate with whatever mls club may be interested? why the big production for seriously flawed players?

by #1 Leverage Fan on Jan 29, 2012 6:36 AM PST up reply actions  

In practice he looks...

raw.

He is still very young and, while talented, need to develop his positioning and decision making before I would consider making him a starter. Definitely a project, but a worthwhile one. In all three of the practices I was at this last week, Spencer spent a good deal of his time yelling at Jean-Baptiste (in an instructive way, not an angry way).

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by William Conwell on Jan 29, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

In a video on Timbers.com GW stated on Draft day that he was raw

They’re looking for him to develop with the reserves is what I gleaned from that video

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Jan 29, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

I think Spenny really wants him to develop into a leadership role.

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by William Conwell on Jan 30, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

More SF love

I also should probably express my gratitude for SF….I’ve been lurking every day, multiple times a day since I found this blog a couple of months ago, and plan to be a more regular contributor to posting in the comments. Thanks to all the people who put this together, for all the hard work that goes into this (whoever you are!)….it makes it much easier for me to be living here out on the East Coast and away from my favorite club for the time being. Can’t wait to come back to PDX in the mid-summer and finally get to make use of my season tickets again!

by haytrain on Jan 29, 2012 4:50 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks!

All the contributors to SF appreciate the sentiments that have been expressed the last few days. I can tell you all now that we are really going to be putting out a ton of content for every match this year and really want to be the best SBN Soccer blog out there and the place to go for information regarding the Portland Timbers and soccer around Portland.

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by Ryan Gates on Jan 29, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

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