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Rumor: Reports are pointing to Caleb Porter as next Head Coach

This will more than likely be correct, as signs have been pointing to Caleb Porter being the lead candidate for the job, but we're still calling it a rumor. Here is what we know right now.

There was a tweet a week ago from Steven Goff, which broke the news that Porter and the Portland Timbers were in talks:

We then started hearing other rumblings about one last interview from Gavin Wilkinson. The following is a quote from Gavin concerning the coaching search:

It is going very well. We will finalize one more interview in the next week and be in a position where we will be able to make a decision. At the moment there are some candidates that had risen to the top and one that we feel would be right for the organization. We are honestly hopeful to be able to make a decision in the near future.

More after the jump.

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We did not hear anything until today when GCA sent out this tweet and then an article.

I then tried to pry some information out of Merritt Paulson and got "Good job, Good Effort" as well as the information that Timbers fans will not have to wait long for an announcement on the head coach. Merritt's message to me was:

Shouldn't have to wait long. Maybe wed/thurs

So there you have it. All the information we have concerning who is reported to be the Timbers next Head Coach.

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My reaction to this is to feel hesitant but hopeful. My concern is ‘how do you know?’ Steve Nichol has been at the top of my list because he’s already been successful in this league. You know with certainty that he can do it. I’m sure Merritt likes Porter because he could be the next Jason Kreis. But he also might not be. There’s just a lot more risk, in my mind. Well, anyway, if it’s true, a warm welcome and all the best to him. And Darlington can start investing in local real estate. Unless he goes to Europe, he’ll be here now for the next fifteen years.

by oddcontemplation on Aug 26, 2025 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Or
he could be the next Jason Kreis.

He could be the next John Spencer

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's NOT the next John Spencer

though I know what you mean. But he’s going to play a much more positive, competent-looking brand of football than Spencer did.

The bigger factor being, will he turn us into winners, eventually?

I personally am more into vision and calculated risk—-Steve Nichol was the overly safe choice to me—-the guy who might get us a good year or two, but would be less likely to build this team into greatness over a longer period of time.

But I do understand those who wanted him—-it’s not an invalid approach by any means, just not as bold as I want to see us be.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like it but also have my doubts.

Good eye for talent, a possession coach, probably has a good idea of the players he wants to keep since the team is playing a style similar to what we will see. All I wonder is the same question that others have pointed out is can he adapt from the MLS to college level. He has a great record in college (105-17-14?) maybe that will translate to 50% wins in MLS? I look forward to him and hopefully the team can make playoffs or be really damn close in 2013. Oh, and I also guess this mean bye Boyd.

by aviatorlol on Aug 26, 2025 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

50% wins

plus a few draws will get you into the playoffs.

by Withdrawn Striker on Aug 26, 2025 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

50% wins

is 54 points without any draws. Last year that would have been the third best record in the league.

by look4wrd on Aug 27, 2025 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Many good coaches in MLS were former college coaches

Just remember that 3 of the best coaches in MLS history were former college coaches; Bruce Arena, Sigi Schmidt, and Bob Bradley. I would argue that it’s not too much of a risk, if you are getting a good college coach.

by bigjdunham on Aug 27, 2025 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The "directly" qualifier is three, but all three were 1998 or before.

And yes, the number of coaches with college experience is sizable.

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by Kejsare on Aug 27, 2025 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Makes sense, it has been the Nagbe show lately

Still need to bring in quality players around him.

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 26, 2025 10:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting Idea

If you’re right then I’m already a Porter fan; I’ve been very happy w/ the changes we’ve made in our past three games I just assumed it was maybe help from Sean McAuley or Wilkinson just figuring some stuff out, but if this is from Porter pulling the strings in the background w/ a limited role, i’m already excited.

by SkylerA on Aug 26, 2025 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too have been happy

If Porter can also fix the leaky defense. Although it will be GW who really needs to fill them as he’ll be back in the GM chair. I think HW becomes even more important if it is Porter. If you bring in Nichol then he can do his own thing, but because of his lack of MLS experience Porter will really need to lean on GW.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

He favors a 4-3-3

and knows what to do with young talent.

I wanted Nicol, but I’m OK with this hire.

by PDXCharger on Aug 26, 2025 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If other MLS teams are moving to more dynamic formations

We can’t be stuck with rigid 4-4-2 play.

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 26, 2025 10:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

What can I say

yep you’re right.

At least we know we’ll get everything out of Nagbe.

by PDXCharger on Aug 26, 2025 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Nicol would have been a fine choice

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 26, 2025 11:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

But I’m going to be excited about Porter. I said it last week in the Fanshot, I think Porter is a pretty slick choice and hopefully has been offering GW the advice that has freed up Nagbe to become the stud he’s evolving into. If so, we have a lot to look forward to.

4-3-3 can be such an exciting formation, I really hope that if he’s the hire, we keep with this mindset and see where it takes us. I have been a big fan of the way we’ve played for the past several matches (essentially since Zizzo went into the starting lineup for Richards) and hope something similar unfolds as we roll on through the season).

by Chill503 on Aug 27, 2025 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course...

Didn’t GW say as much a week or two ago?

by twbivens on Aug 26, 2025 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the most ambiguous, poorly phrased way possible, yeah.

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by William Conwell on Aug 27, 2025 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so clever . . .

“I’m thinking that recent formations and tactics have been Porter influenced.”

Yep, you’re right! ;)

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

that wasn't supposed to go there

hit the wrong reply button,

besides, I know see that someone already had my idea. Where’s that delete button when I need it!

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not saying they haven't been asking Porter

But I think it went down like this:

Porter said he prefers the 4-3-3 and it would be nice if Portland started using that formation. Sean McAuley is then given the job of getting the team ready and working on the 4-3-3. So yes in some ways Porter influenced it but Sean McAuley has implemented the changes and helped the players get used to playing this type of system.

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 27, 2025 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

And while I doubt Porter has pulled many strings behind the scenes, I DO think GW has anticipated him or someone else of similar mindset, and has gotten feedback from those guys as to how he could best prepare the team in the interim. He seemed to even indicate that, after the Perkins trade.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine he's in

The FO absolutely doesn’t need the press of a guy turning down the HC position. If it leaked to GCA that an offer was made before Porter was at least 90% or so certain to sign, the FO should be pissed.

Also, if the turn down were to happen it would be fun to hear a vocal group say ‘he didn’t want to work with GW!!!’ And by ‘fun’ I mean ‘groan-inducing.’

by almost awesome on Aug 26, 2025 10:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Chip Kelly moment

He has a change of heart, “Akron is where my heart is. It’s home.” No big deal.

I imagine it’s just a matter of crossing T’s and dotting i’s if it was leaked to GCA. It was probably MP or GW who let it out.

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 26, 2025 11:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Doubtful it was MP

Just saying unless he gives something to GCA and then nothing to us…

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 26, 2025 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

wouldnt surprise me

he’s a textbook manipulator/sociopath. he thrives on controlling others. by giving scoops to gca only, gca is dependent on him for his professional success and therefore, mp can control him. you guys on the other hand…

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sociopath?

Isn’t that a little too much?

by zippyflynn on Aug 27, 2025 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

http://www.vodahost.com/web-hosting-sociopath-test-sociopath-definition.html/

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude

seriously. I get that you have issues with Merritt. But unless you know him personally, you have no business calling him a sociopath based on nothing but outside observations.

Dislike the guy all you want, but c’mon.

by pdb on Aug 27, 2025 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What can you expect?

Dude is a Leverage fan. Nuff said

by ForeverPTFC on Aug 27, 2025 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

bump.

I agree. Hate him all you want, but even with first hand knowledge of a person it is going way too far to try DSM-IV the guy. Diagnoses of that nature are difficult to come by.

#RCTID

by FNTM on Aug 27, 2025 1:10 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

i liked the comic strip!

obviously “sociopath” may have been a bit over the top, “control freak” may be a better term. its been well documented here that he surrounds himself with those “loyal” to him, essentially fired spencer for “philosophical difference” and i think a large reason for his inappropriate behavior with the TA/twitter folk is that he gets frustrated because he cant “make” them see it his way. i wouldnt be surprised if he was in fact gca’s exclusive source in attempt to try to control what gca publishes. if he’s not then he’s gotta be on one heck of a warpath trying to find the mole!

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like to detract my previous post

It was clearly stated as an OPINION!

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to be pedantic, but no it wasn't

“I think he’s a textbook manipulator/sociopath” would be an expression of opinion. The way you put it, “He’s a textbook manipulator/sociopath”, is a definitive, declarative statement of fact.

by pdb on Aug 27, 2025 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Full list

There are very few people within the FO who are in on these types of decisions. MP, GW, Mike Golub… maybe the assistant coaches are aware and that’s about it. Chris Metz possibly but not likely. All the rest of the guys would be told to mind their own business.

by Daaaaave on Aug 27, 2025 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very True

If I put money down I would be putting it on Golub or GW. Golub would be a likely source because he has a previous relationship with the O writers when he was with the Blazers. Although it could have been MP.

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 27, 2025 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

What will be of the TA....

If a coach turned down the position because of TA?? Especially after the #GWOUT flags flew on Saturday.

by Lucha on Aug 27, 2025 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then that person is not the right fit for Portland Timbers

If a player or coach turns down Portland specifically because of the TA then it’s their problem, not ours.

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 27, 2025 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then that coach is an idiot who shouldn't be a coach

“Attitude of the fans” is about the last item on a list of 100 items a coach should be influenced by.

by pdb on Aug 27, 2025 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would be perfectly fine with this pick

Great college record, and a possession coach. Plus he seems well respected for his coaching ability with the ability to work with the U23’s.

by Kazper on Aug 26, 2025 11:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Olympic qualifying

Didn’t his coaching come in for a lot of heat? I wasn’t able to follow too closely.

by Withdrawn Striker on Aug 26, 2025 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since the US didn't qualify

obviously there were going to be some questions asked of the coach. I’m not sure I think most of the criticism of him was fair. Particularly in the game vs. El Salvador, I think it mostly came down to the keepers. Bill Hamid got hurt but waved away the sub. Porter took him at his word, as coaches generally do. Then Hamid let in two goals, both of which he should have been able to save, but his movement looked unsure and pained. I think Porter started prepping a sub in between the first and second goal, but if I remember correctly they came pretty close together. The US managed to pull back into the lead, only to have Sean Johnson let in a late equalizer for El Salvador. Again, it was a save he should have been able to make.

On the other hand, our loss to Canada was embarrassing.

by sneevers on Aug 26, 2025 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

didn’t Porter also not pick his team but played with what Klinsmann wanted him to play with?

I know they’re good players and there really was no excuse for Canada, but if he had more time and a pick of the players perhaps it would have gone better.

by PDXCharger on Aug 26, 2025 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds familiar.

I think you might be right. I think Klinsmann also pretty much determined their system and style of play.

by sneevers on Aug 26, 2025 11:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah.

And he was missing a significant number of U23’s that could have contributed but didn’t get called in due to club or mnt conflicts (guys like Altidore/Boyd/etc. IIRC).

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by William Conwell on Aug 27, 2025 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Terrence Boyd played.

I thought it was his brace vs. El Salvador that nearly saved us.

by sneevers on Aug 27, 2025 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was missing key defenders

whose clubs wouldn’t release them, and Altidore. The defender part of that really hurt.

But ultimately, yes he took heat for the failure, he’s not entirely at fault, but partly, yes he played to Klinsmann’s desires, but he is also a coach of that mindset, and the U-23’s do have to feed into the senior team so it makes sense that JK would have some say there.

Ultimately, I think his part in the U-23 failure actually bodes well for his maturation has he comes to MLS. This guy is intelligent, and hasn’t gotten where he is at the college level by not learning from mistakes.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alfredo Morales

Was the key cog that was missing. One of the most important pieces in the 4-3-3 that Klinsey pushed down to Porter is the center DMs. They need to be able to shield the back line, then play the ball forward quickly and carefully. It is a hugely important role and Morales was the best option in the pool by a wide margin. We didn’t really have anyone else suited to play it and instead many players who were not really used to the role had to step i. It went OK, but not nearly as well as it could have.

Also El Salvor was playing some of the dirtiest soccer I have ever seen.

by skenjis on Aug 27, 2025 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The players he had were still much better than the players on the opposing teams

I think that the biggest mistake Porter made was starting the same players in all 3 games when they played 3 games in 5 days. They dominated the first game, but the tired players did not get enough rest and performed poorly in the next 2 games.

by trk on Aug 27, 2025 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

A coach that defers to others in chosing their starting lineup?

A perfect fit! :)

by lysander on Aug 27, 2025 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

His influence in recent weeks?

Supposedly the new coach (prospective new coaches?) Have been on board with the recent trades and acquisitions. And it sounds like it has been pretty much of a done deal for a few weeks (GW announcing that the person would be named as soon as Sept.) So how much would GW have been consulting with Porter (or whoever) about coaching matters?

by Withdrawn Striker on Aug 26, 2025 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd assume a fair bit...

Anytime you are hiring someone, you want to hire someone smarter than you in whatever role. GW wants to be a GM, not a coach. I’d leverage Caleb Porter all day long if I know he’s going to be my guy. It’s great strategy, and based on recent weeks has been paying off handsomely.

Props to both GW and MP for weathering the storm, righting the ship, and hopefully making a good hire at coach.

by twbivens on Aug 26, 2025 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to an incredibly knowledgable MLS insider...

“Timbers have been in contact w Caleb Porter for weeks. Team source says Timbers ran Perkins trade by Akron coach prior to executing. #rctid” – @JohnCanzanoBFT

by imbleh on Aug 27, 2025 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

makes sense

A keeper with terrible distribution hamstring’s Porter’s possession based approach.

by skenjis on Aug 27, 2025 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was a test drive

Get his advice, see what happens and go from there. If they have been consulting with him over the last three games then I would say he’s done pretty well. If we had tanked, maybe they move on.

I’m not suggesting he is really having that much of an effect, but maybe a few gentle suggestions here and there. It could be a giant coincidence that Nage’s (re?)emergence has happened during the same time period. But it might also not be.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about this...

I would have thought someone with head man pro experience might have been a wiser choice this time around, but there has been something enticing about Caleb Porter since the rumors started. The college game is a different beast, but we’ll see. He seems like a bright guy.

by UPilot93 on Aug 26, 2025 11:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I would assume

he would finish the college season, no?

by Withdrawn Striker on Aug 26, 2025 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I'd think...

Timbers announce he’s the new coach, but won’t take the sidelines until next season. GW as interim is going fine, and having McAuley run things with Caleb just a phone call away seems perfectly reasonable as we finish out the rest of this season.

by twbivens on Aug 26, 2025 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would evaluate and then take over after the College Season

He has already coached his first game of the season and close to coaching his second if I remember correctly. It would be a lot like the time table after the John Spencer hire was announced.

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 26, 2025 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

*Probably

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by William Conwell on Aug 27, 2025 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

not sure i agree with this

if its announced publicly he needs to leave akron immediately. not fair to the akron kids to have a lame duck coach who has one foot out the door phoning in roster/acquisition moves to his next job.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

if so

then we’re back to the original question, which is would he start coaching the Timbers in September? Personally, I say the sooner the better.

by Withdrawn Striker on Aug 27, 2025 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He should leave Akron ASAP but I don't think he should be coaching until next year

Let him evaluate instead, much like Spencer did in 2010. The team has too many holes and issues. Even with Porter around I don’t see many wins the rest of the way with the roster as it is.

Why risk getting off to a bad start with deadweight players and guys on their way out? He needs to start coaching next season with some new guys and with a clean slate.

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 27, 2025 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

Arena did this when he took overnthe galaxy as well, with cobi as interim

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its also not fair to the akron kids to leave them high and dry

As long as he approaches it correctly hes can finish out the year with plenty of passion knowing its his last season there. I dont think hes the type of coach that would simply stop trying. If hes able to focus on the U23’s along with his Akron team then I dont think this would cause a huge issue for him to balance.

by Kazper on Aug 27, 2025 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's also under contract with Akron

not sure of the terms, but I’m assuming he will have to come to agreement with the school to leave early.

by Kracken2011 on Aug 27, 2025 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

This seems good.

Especially if he’s been giving GW his advice on how to start moving the team into the 4-3-3 and how to get better play out of Nagbe etc. The lack of MLS experience is a little worrying, but I think he can figure it out. It certainly can’t end any worse than this year has I would think.

by burnsbabe on Aug 27, 2025 12:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder...

I listened to Strong on the MLS podcast late last week and they asked him what he thought and the view he stated was the importance of bringing in a coach who could relate to the young players.

I didn’t know (and still don’t) whether it was “breadcrumb” for the fans.

Anyway, I actually like this if it happens. I know he has his doubters given the Olympics, but he’s strong on scouting, tactics, and as per above, relating to players.

I’m just out here wondering whether Boyd is already on his way out (for lack of fit).

by pdxsoccerdad on Aug 27, 2025 7:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I just don't see Boyd as a fit for Porter

and his 4-3-3. Not mobile enough.

I’m not knocking Boyd, who I like. I just see us moving to a more dynamic set like what we’ve seen the last couple weeks and there is no place for Boyd in that.

He’ll probably go be successful somewhere else, and I wish him the best.

by PDXCharger on Aug 27, 2025 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm operating under the assumption that Boyd is gone.

If it’s Porter I’m even more sure. He hasn’t been fitting in at all, and when I guy who came back from a 3d Division team beats you for a starting spot in one of the most important games of the season the writing is on the wall.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

wonder what

porter thinks about chara? that’s how i’ll make up my mind about him. cutting ties with boyd is an easy decision. chara, on the other hand, is – for some reason i cant explain – overvalued by the fans and sending him elsewhere will not be popular, but imo, needs to be done.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

you’re reaction is exactly what im talking about. our fanbase lacks the ability to look at chara objectively. most are enamored with his hard-nosed workrate and ignore his shortcommings and the fact that we are a better team with him not on the field. if porter recommends he be moved, which i think is the rational things to do, it will be met with heavy criticism, more so than perkins i bet.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just curious

Yes, Chara has some short comings. I am wondering how much of those show up because of the pairing with Jewsbury and how much it is actually Chara? If Chara is paired with Nagbe and Alexander would this change his playing style but still allow him to be more Box to box and truly give us a 4-3-3.

So what I would like to see is Chara paired with those two before we ship him out.

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 27, 2025 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think JJ has been doing fine

in the new system. I do think Chara-EA-Nagbe would be good, and JJ-EA-Nagbe worked, and JJ-Chara-Nagbe was working the last few games. We sorely needed EA so we don’t have to see Palmer every time JJ or Chara is out. EA can also cover on the wings or for Nagbe if he is out. I’d like to see all of hem stay for now.

by Kracken2011 on Aug 27, 2025 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chara is an enigma to me

I LOVE his work rate and his disruption ability in the middle third.

But he isn’t a great attacking mid, he lacks the final pass etc.

He also isn’t a lock down defender in the box. That disqualifies him to me as a defensive mid UNLESS you have such a strong back line that you can afford it (we certainly don’t at this point).

I’m glad they pay some smarter people than me to coach…

by pdxsoccerdad on Aug 27, 2025 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Chara is good at the short passing game

and springing counter attacks. You’ve referenced him giving away the ball too often in some other posts, but I think in the long run he has had a highly successful passing rate. It is really noticeable when he is off with his accuracy. I’ll concede he fouls poorly, but that can be worked on. He also breaks up plenty of attacks without fouls. I’m glad we have EA working that position, it gives us depth all of a sudden in that position if either Jewsbury or Chara are out. I think there is room for all three.

by Kracken2011 on Aug 27, 2025 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to be a jerk

How did he over-react? He asked you explain your position. No one has jumped on you using explicatives, exclamation points etc. So please-tell us what you think his shortcomings are. If you are going to judge a coach based solely on whether or not he will get rid of one of the best players on the team I feel you are going to be sorely disappointed.

Here is how I see Chara: A workhorse who nine times out of ten is right where he needs to be, is willing to get his jersey dirty and will usually make the safe, simple pass. Yea he won’t try the sexy through ball, but he rarely turns it over (except for the odd night he is a little off). Is he a franchise payer? Probably not. But I think a lot of people are hard on him simply because of the DP tag (which has nothing to do with how much he is paid).

And just a note-when you are going to sound off of the entire Timbers fan base, your arguments will be far more potent with a better grasp of grammar. (I am not trying to attack you or your character, just offering some advice from someone who enjoys a good debate).

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on with the grammar critique

I’m often typing fast between things at work, and often have the your/you’re or know/now. I’m just not concentrating on grammar and editing. Substantively, you know what the person is saying. It’s a comment on a blog.

by Kracken2011 on Aug 27, 2025 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed. I've posted

some attrocious things in terms of grammer/spelling, etc. Not because I’m that dumb—-it just means I’m typing as I think without a lot of review for silly mistakes.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not many of care to take the time

to thoroughly grammer/spell check all our posts. This isn’t essay writing or even blog posting. It’s conversing without the benefit of being able to hear each other speak.

If the message was understandable, leave the silly little mistakes alone.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't wait

to rec that when I get back to a computer instead of using my phone.

by sneevers on Aug 27, 2025 12:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is it to much to ask for a single capitalization though?

I also find when I post in the same way I speak (fast) I tend to say some stupid things. So going back to double check my posts results in both better grammar and better thoughts.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Internet should have a mandatory standing eight count for inflammatory issues

write a post, stop. Count to eight. Re-read. Does it make sense? Post. If not, don’t.

by pdb on Aug 27, 2025 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not to much to ask

but it might be too much to ask.

by snizz on Aug 27, 2025 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright people

We all suck at Grammar. In the words of Ralph Wiggum “Me Fail English that unpossible!”

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 27, 2025 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am so smart, I am so smart, SMRT, i mean Smart

I figure if we are going with those references we might as well go all the way :)

by Kazper on Aug 27, 2025 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speak for yourself

I’m awesome at grammar, but I gave up getting pissy about it right after I realized that most people just really do suck at construction and spelling. I highly doubt this blog is exhibit A for this pandemic, more like the lack of having to do exercises at a younger level in school.

by ForeverPTFC on Aug 27, 2025 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is me as well

If I got mad at every single grammatical/spelling error I saw, not just here but everywhere, I’d spend my whole life being mad for no real reason, so I ignore all but the most egregious errors, particularly on a website with real-time commenting.

by pdb on Aug 27, 2025 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going for an absolute

and saying we all rock at Grammar would be a lie :) Especially in my case.

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 27, 2025 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to be pissy.

I was trying to be helpful. Leverage is having a tough day in these comments so I was trying to be constructive. When I read posts without a single capitalization I take them far less seriously. It seems as if I am reading one of my 7th graders pieces of writing. If there is a typo or whatever that’s fine (notice on one of his other posts I didn’t call him out for mis-using “detract”.) I’m not calling for everyone to get an editor before they post, just to be a little more thoughtful.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

its the fricking ipad man

autocorrect is off and its still a mess. trying to capitalize something takes about 4 extra touches, which is 4 extra opportunities to misspell something. trying to go back and the fix “thenreason” is even more cumbersome.

and i realize when i come out with something like “chara isnt a good fit for this team” that im going to get hammered. but im comfortable with that because thats the way i see it and i watch games very closely.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

take note, I'm agreeing with Leverage...

As much as you and I have debated on GWin v GWOut – please tell me you’re finally coming around :) ….. I completely agree with you re: Chara.

Chara looked beyond terrible in that Toronto game, and still barely received flak for it. I think he’s over-rated in Timbers circles and would much rather see EA get more time with the starting XI. His fouls and touch are both detriments to what we’re trying to do, and I just don’t see him as the long term solution at this position. EA may not be either, but I think there’s a “can’t touch Chara” around these parts that in my opinion isn’t warranted.

by twbivens on Aug 27, 2025 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was indeed very poor v Toronto

but he’s had more excellent games over this season than many other players.

Chara was actually good when the season was alive.

Nice to see guys like Nagbe start playing now, but the pressure is off and the season is dead. I like scoring 2 goals in each of the last 3 games, but I’m not sure how much improved forward play I would relate to formation change (though I’m happy to see Boyd on the bench, will be happier when he’s on the plane out) and how much to guys being relaxed and playing loose.

by mccusk on Aug 27, 2025 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll agree that he is over-rated

But that doesn’t mean he is a bad player. Palmer is a bad player. Chara is a good player that many think is a great player. I would rather him foul a guy than let him go by. Do I wish he could take the ball without fouling? Of course. But for all the other things he does right, I put up with the fouls and the occasional bad game (TFC).

And thanks for giving me another (much needed) reason to avoid buying an ipad.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not bad, but not someone you build around

or even approach as a must start.

To me, he’s serviceable. There are definitely worse options out there, but as we begin to move forward with our presumed 4-3-3 I’d like to explore improving his spot, and EA may effectively be able to do it.

We’ve probably got one more year of JJ … so my hope is that by the end of next season we have a gameplan for replacing both JJ and Chara in ’14.

by twbivens on Aug 27, 2025 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next year

I think it is much easier to move on from JJ next year than from Chara. There is the fan favorite thing, but I think we have also seen the best JJ has to offer. I’m not sure we have from Chara. I think with some better coaching and better players around him he could be significantly better.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I solved that problem

By buying a bluetooth keyboard which has a shift key :)

I will never go back to using the on screen keyboard.

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by Ryan Gates on Aug 27, 2025 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand where Leverage Is cOming fROm

The ipad Sucks for typing Stuff ôut. it has made me a Worse writer LZoL! From now, all of my posts will be in esperanto.

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by yepyou'reright on Aug 27, 2025 5:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

This is something I would like to see.

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by William Conwell on Aug 27, 2025 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you speak you’re not thinking of the spelling of too, you’re or their.

Better grammar is always gooder though.

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It's the goodest.

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by William Conwell on Aug 27, 2025 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didnt say he overreacted.

I said he reacted, in the form of a flabbergasted question. Something like, " whoa, how could someone possibly have a question about chara’s value?" thats the attitude im talking about, there seems to be for the most part a tribal understanding that we all love chara because he is a workhorse engine and his contribution cant be minimized. in fact we cant even bring it up or else we will sound off because someone is challenging the party line. I think chara struggles to find passing combinations with his teammates and often turns the ball over in the attacking third, and his constant fouling makes it difficult for the game to find rhythm. Also, if you eliminated square balls from his passing stats id think you find his contribution is not as steong as it appears.

You misspelled player with payer.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Funny blast on the misspelling. I have been pissed off with Nagbe because he would not shoot and before the last roady I was calling on him to be benched because he wasn’t assertive at ALL. Then, as I believe Geoff said, the switch just flipped and Nagbe has been reborn.

I am never above trading a player if it makes the team better, I just don’t think trading him away right NOW is going to help as much as you think. Unless we get a Rosales or Ferreira (sans floppage) then I say he stays put. Thoughts?

by ForeverPTFC on Aug 27, 2025 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Party Line

I think Chara is a very good holding midfielder. He covers a lot of ground, wins tackles, picks up knock-downs, and maintains possession. I suppose you could knock him for playing the “safe” ball too often. Eric Cantona once criticized Didier Deschamps by describing him as “the water-carrier.” But the fact is that when you are receiving the ball in your defensive or midfield third, the safe ball is usually the right play.

Lately Chara has been playing in more of a box-to-box role and I think he’s done quite well at it. Not only has his application of pressure higher up the field worked well, but it seems to me that he has also been springing players with well-slotted through balls fairly regularly.

All that is to say that I’d be slow to dismiss the fact that Chara is widely considered a very good player who the Timbers should hold on to as group think or a “tribal understanding.” Maybe the party line is the party line for a good reason.

by bndwgn on Aug 27, 2025 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

stats or opinions?

Do you have stats to back up your statements or are you just making off the cuff remarks based on how you watch the game?

by skenjis on Aug 27, 2025 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think the stats or GTFO style of argument

holds weight all the time. I have tried opta and hosts of other stat monitors and it looks like a freaking old style war map with hot spots and cold spots and well, frankly, it is easier to gauge by watching.
Chara has been playing a box to box marauder the way I like him to play recently, and I can say with certainty that bndwgn’s last paragraph is beyond reproach. Frankly, I don’t much like the “tribal uinderstanding” with the GW Out BS, but I’ve stayed away from that because it’s a lose-lose situation to “debate” those who want to argue.

Btw, wasn’t saying you were saying “stats or GTFO”, hence the insertion of style, so please no one misinterpret that lest I have to break my keyboard.

by ForeverPTFC on Aug 27, 2025 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

opinion

all the way. i dont like stats, they can be manipulated to prove whatever you want, especially in soccer and super especially in this case (by including all the layoffs to defenders in his passing % you can argue he is a top notch passer, even though very few of those are advancing passes in the opposing half). imo, stats are a waste of time in soccer. the “big picture” is much more important (and fun). i try to watch the game holistically, try to see what the entire group is trying to do collectively. then when “one of these things is not like other” it sticks out like a sore thumb.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

btw

its not “off the cuff.” ive been developing this conclusion for about a year.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 27, 2025 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry

I did not mean to imply that the statement was without merit based on it being based only on watching.

I do not wish to delve into the “stats vs. eyes” discussion, as clearly to succeed as a team you need to use both, and use them wisely. Ignoring either is done at extreme peril.

However I would take issue with one of your statements that did not make sense to me, perhaps you could elaborate. Why do you rate fouling and killing the flow as a negative?

by skenjis on Aug 28, 2025 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

because

guys like nagbe, songo’o, alexander, kah, and even jack seem to excel is open games with lots of ball movement and natural rhythm to it. plus, from a fan standpoint it makes everything choppy and much less fun to watch.

seriously, i think the stats thing is completely overrated, completely ignoring them poses little risk of peril. if you listen to high level managers, respected soccer journalists, etc, they almost never mention stats. every once in awhile you’ll hear a possession or corners stat mentioned, but very very rarely. everything is big picture stuff, strategy, tactics, flow, etc. you wont ever hear them drilling down into a particular player’s “passing %” or “crosses attempted” or anything like that. trust you knowledge and what you’re seeing.

by #1 Leverage Fan on Aug 28, 2025 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh heh, careful

First, listening to high (the highest) level managers, it is universally acknowledged that the game rewards fouling. It is how you break up THE OTHER TEAM’S rhythm, get your defensive shape, control the flow of the game, etc. Personally I find it cynical, but the rules of the modern game do not discourage it.

Where I encourage caution, though, is in the dismissal of stats. Possession has been shown to be a nearly useless stat in terms of predicting outcomes within the MLS. However there are a great many very intelligent people out there gaining access to high level deeply granular stats. It would be shocking if a Bill James/Moneyball style revolution is not underway or immanent within soccer. There is simply too much money involved for that to not start happening. The top teams are already investing in advanced statistics. Do the to managers talk about the stats? Of course not. The average fan does not have the tools to process the stats yet. Plus, as there is still a great deal of development in the field I would imagine that most would not wish to tip their hand.

by skenjis on Aug 28, 2025 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

probably overvalued

Like Perkins was. But he’s very good. Did you notice the first 30 min Sat how everything forward was a boot ball and nothing was going through the middle?

by almostawesome on Aug 27, 2025 10:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

and for as much as he fouls

Which is to much and needs to come down, they hardly ever seem to put us in a bad spot.

by almostawesome on Aug 27, 2025 10:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting thought

I recently commented, at separate times, about the possibility of seeing Boyd, Chara and Jewbury all leaving town.

Boyd for lack of mobility, Jewsbury in place of a big-money-star in midfield, and Boyd for immobility/ineffectiveness/free-up-money-to-sign-star-midfielder.

Now, to play devils advocate against you and myself:

-Boyd may be hard to unload for enough value AND it’s possible that a more fluid game moving around him could actually give him more space to get the ball and shoot.

Chara is good at disrupting the other team’s flow and winning the ball back. Pressuring and winning the ball back quickly is an essential part of Porter’s attacking system. However, that person also needs to be a good passer, and Chara’s distribution has been really inconsistent—brilliant at times, but bad for entire games at times.

Jewsbury——decent defensive mid who can distribute on the ground—-would have to sit or get traded if we go for a bigger star playmaker/leader signing at mid, but if we decide that Songo’o/Nagbe/Alexander give us enough playmaking (as they have in recent games) we could keep him as that veteran leader/good defender/ground distributor from the back.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

I like Boyd. But if you’re going to play with only one up top, he’s not your guy.

by bndwgn on Aug 27, 2025 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

You're probably right

as we’re currently playing, Boyd is better off in the 4-3-3 than it’s more defensive metamorphosis, the 4-2-3-1, and probably even better in the 4-4-2.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

With Boyd not playing in the last 2 games

I think the writing is on the wall.

by snizz on Aug 27, 2025 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting Pick

If this is true, it is an interesting window in the schizophrenia that is our front office.

(1) It confirms what I think we all already know — MP swings for the fences. The safe hire is an MLS-vet ala Steve Nichol or Denis Hamlet, in light of the Spencer failure. Porter is a high risk, high reward coach. If he can translate his college success to MLS, the Timbers hit the jackpot. If not, well, that’s two tries with unproven coaches and two failures. Not good.

(2) His style is so different than Spencer’s rigid 4-4-2, it makes me wonder whether MP or GW really understood what they were getting when they went with Spencer in the first place. Did their philosophy regarding style of play change that much since hiring Spencer? Whether they didn’t understand what Spencer brought or now want somethign totally different, this departure seems weird. Don’t get me wrong — I’d rather have Porterball than Spencerball, but I knew that a long time ago. Did our FO?

All that said, I think this could be a great hire if he’s given time.

Weird fact: there have been 106 coaching hires in MLS history. If my wikipedia research/memory is correct, only 3 have come directly from NCAA jobs (with no prior pro head coaching or assistant coach experience) into MLS: Schellas Hyndman, Bruce Arena, and Sigi Schmidt. Tom Fitzgerald was an assistant with the Crew for half a season before being promoted.

Anybody else find it odd that this path is not more well-traveled, especially in light of the success the three above have had in MLS?

by Scoey on Aug 27, 2025 8:47 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

They knew what they were getting with Spencer...

they just didn’t know how to make it work.

by barkdog on Aug 27, 2025 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting note, Scoey. Hyndman, Arena and Schmidt are good company to be in.

by k13west on Aug 27, 2025 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Totally agree!

I mean being in that company, why wouldn’t more MLS franchises hire college coaches? It seems kind of preposterous. This is why, if this rumor is true, I’m welcoming Porter with open arms, and saying let’s take the MLS by storm in 2013!

by bigjdunham on Aug 27, 2025 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fully agree

Spencer didn’t turn out as MP and GW had hoped——-both in effectiveness AND playing and development philosophy. The divergent directions of GW and JS seem to be very visible, in hindsight.

But was it MP and GW who changed or Spencer who just couldn’t work the plan? My guess is that it was a little of both. I think GW wanted an attacking style, but one that was more direct in the middle with overlapping wingers being the one area that was more flexible. When it didn’t work, and we started getting more conservative, GW and MP started to think more fluidity was going to be the only way to play attacking football effectively in MLS and JS refused and/or couldn’t make the adjustment.

Here’s to wild speculation (but hopefully a little education to my guessing)!

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you are on to something here

I have been thinking about this issue with JS and the style (or lack of style) that he ended up with and where Gw has gone.

As I remember it, we started out 1st season as a fairly aggressive attacking team, but, we started giving up leads due to poor defense. I recall conceding late goals as the theme to the 2011 season. JS adjusted moving to a 4-5-1 and then back to a 4-4-2 with two holding mids which led to this season where we played the 4-4-2 and sometimes 4-5-1 on the road. In essence, JS did not trust the defense and tried to play for 1-0 wins or 1-1 draws. This sucked the life out of the team.

I guess you can look at “philosophical differences” in this light. Spencers answer to a bad defense was conservatism and MP clearly wants exciting. Seems like JS fell into the trap of playing not to lose rather than to win.

by ukuku on Aug 27, 2025 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That last part is true enough

but I still feel the failure of Boyd to truly ignite in this league was a big part of Spencer’s demise.

by mccusk on Aug 27, 2025 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

this doesn't quite go with the thread, but...

Does anyone know how much Spencer was making per year. I’m kind of curious if financially this makes sense for porter since he has a contract through 2020 which nets him 350K per year (or thats what i saw on their website)

by Kazper on Aug 27, 2025 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Often asked about that

but never heard anyone mention a figure.

by mccusk on Aug 27, 2025 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do know he's still getting paid right now

and will be for a couple more years!

by mccusk on Aug 27, 2025 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck yeah!!

I had talked about Porter back when JS was fired, but did NOT expect GW to be interested. I also didn’t think GW would implement a creative, attacking style upon taking over as interim, so I couldn’t be happier right now with the team’s direction, and I’m mildly pleased with GW’s leadership, despite really hating his “upgrade” comments about Perkins.

WARNING! Creative, attacking football takes TIME to develop. If Porter does take the job, we, the fans, need to be willing to give him that time. I think we should set aggressive goals, but those should be playoffs in 2014 and MLS cup in the next five years.

Playoffs next year could happen, but are certainly not a sure thing and development of the new system needs to take precedence. We shouldn’t place that expectation——otherwise, everyone will be FREAKING OUT if we don’t get there right away.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

So if we shouldn't place the expectation, why bring it up?

I don’t mean that to sound snarky, but saying things like “playoffs next year could happen” isn’t really helping calm things down.

by pdb on Aug 27, 2025 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not snarky

Just nitpicky.

My point is, no more playoffs or bust statements form MP, please, and ratchet down the public expectations. Saying that we could get lucky and get there faster than expected is a FAR cry from saying “playoffs in year two, MLS Cup in year three”. But if I was advising Paulson, I’d agree with you that he shouldn’t even say that. But I’m not advising Paulson. I’m a dude thinking out loud on a message board, so that’s why I say it seems nitpicky to me to pick that out and of my post and question it.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments aside

Knowing GW was planning on Porter when Mtl approached us about the deal, isn’t Ricketts a definite upgrade over Perkins based on the style of play we were planning on moving towards?

We flame GW for foot-in-mouth, but his honesty is actually refreshing in this era of canned interviews. Looking back over the past month or so, it’s GW revealed a lot in his comments. Not always the most tactful, I admit, but would rather get something honest and with meat than a bunch of canned fluff.

by twbivens on Aug 27, 2025 12:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

If you guys think the stuff that comes out of

GW’s mouth is ‘meat’ remind me never to come to your place for BBQ. I didn’t really care that Perkins was traded, he was OK and that was all, but he deserved a bit of respect.

by mccusk on Aug 27, 2025 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

GW sucks at communicating with tact and polish

Once you accept that and just extract what he’s trying to say, he’s pretty much dead on accurate with what he’s saying.

by twbivens on Aug 27, 2025 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a Kiwi

I mean c’mon, we all KNOW how horrible they are at communicating.

- I am basing this solely on the awesomeness that is Flight of the Concords

by ForeverPTFC on Aug 27, 2025 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really didn't like his comments on the "upgrade"

Because they were insulting to Perkins and the fans.

And I’m not convinced they are correct either.

That being said, I’m over it, and I agree, it’s gotten blown WAY out of proportion. The progress of our young players and the evidence of a real plan and system starting to take shape, to me, is more than worth the trade off. Overall I approve of the job GW is doing, even if I take issue with some of the things he says.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patience needed for sure

And if they play with aggressive style I can wait

by alantyll on Aug 27, 2025 7:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am elated about this

Porter has been the golden boy of the US federation. I am firmly convinced they have been grooming him to take over head coaching duties at some point in the future. He is tied into the development pipeline and knows exactly the style and form of what the US is trying to build for the future. In my mind this will lead to several things:

1) A huge jump in the development of our younger players. Nagbe, Alexander, Zizzo, and Alhassan spring to mind.

2) More call ups to the national team for the squad. This will lead to advanced development and maybe some really nice transfer fees.

3) More Bradenton type players flowing into the Timbers pipeline. Would you like Rubio Rubin in a few years? I would.

by skenjis on Aug 27, 2025 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

One thing you hit on that nobody has mentioned

More call ups. That really is true. It doesn’t promise more call ups, but it definitely will help the chances.

by Kazper on Aug 27, 2025 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Porter takes the job..

would he still hold the U23 job?

by zippyflynn on Aug 27, 2025 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

USSoccer and PTFC would need to agree...

… I don’t think the two are necessarily exclusive, but there would need to be some clear understanding among the parties on this point. The u23 gig has some spikes in demand, several of which land outside the MLS season and are not year in year out. So, Porter as Timbers coach MAY still be the u23 coach, and he may NOT be :) . If Merritt is OK with him carrying that duty, and says OK, AND US Soccer is OK with it, AND Porter himself thinks he can do both jobs justice? But any one of those factors is enough to tip the answer to ‘no’

by JD SoOR on Aug 27, 2025 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

In terms of development

You missed a biggie-Developing players to sell. We are starting to see more players use MLS as a starting point instead of an end point to their careers. If Porter can develop guys who has European aspirations we not only get more talented guys, we get a nice little cash pipeline.

by smorris793 on Aug 27, 2025 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Although it was a little rolled into the national team point. But outside of the US program, if Kalif turns into half the player we know him to be capable of becoming, imagine the transfer fee we get for him? Zoinks!

by skenjis on Aug 28, 2025 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

not to quibble, but

More call ups? Only if there are players playing well enough to deserve it. So far, we haven’t had a single player good enough to merit a call up. Which of our current players do you expect will magically get so much better in the next year they’ll be national team players? I don’t see a single one (Mwanga and Nagbe are not national team eligible, btw, and even if they were, they’d be way, way down the depth charts at their respective positions).

More Bradenton-type players? MLS has very strict rules about how you acquire players. In general, a player good enough to be considered for Bradenton will either (1) already be attached to an MLS academy; or (2) be required to go through the draft.

by Scoey on Aug 27, 2025 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Bradenton

If they are attached to an academy already you still need to get them to sign here as opposed to a foreign league. I would imagine that the contacts that Porter has would increase the ability of the Timbers to make that signing.

As for call ups… Zizzo and Alexander got looks before stalling out. Bear with me here. I am not by any means claiming either of those guys are going to get looks again, but they did before and they might again. As for others… who knows. All I am saying is that two things might happen. The first being that Porter might develop young players well, much better than we have seen in the past, and that Porter might facilitate their integration into the national team.

by skenjis on Aug 27, 2025 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give Caleb some time

and see if some of our players don’t develop into national team prospects.

I definitely see Nagbe eventually becoming eligible and also getting to the level where he’d get a call.

Hopefully we can get 3-4 more years out of him before he jumps to Europe.

by TimberGreen on Aug 27, 2025 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last few quotes sure seem like Porter

Is the man they’ve got. Thanks to William for the tweets of quotes from Merritt and Gavin. See below:

“Paulson intimated that the new coach would be named tomorrow. Said some rumors wrong about coaching search. Refused to give a name.”

Then, Gavin: new coach is a young up and comer who works well with young players

Sure, it could be Tab Ramos or Claudio Reyna, but after all the reports, it’s sure sounding like Porter is the guy.

by Chill503 on Aug 28, 2025 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  


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